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Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Are too many packages actually hurting Eclipse?

On 30/07/13 03:09, Krzysztof Daniel wrote:
On Tue, 2013-07-30 at 00:36 +0000, Doug Schaefer wrote:
+1 for that. I've seen (and made for that matter) commercial products
do that. Download a minimal p2 install with an Eclipse application
that drives the rest of the install. We could ask for a list of
languages or platforms they want to develop for and then install the
necessary components.
I'm very skeptical about P2 in the downloader. It was created in the
past ( and never made into
real world. AFAIK it would suffer from the same issues as regular P2 -
does require java to be pre-downloaded, no real integration with the
system (privileges elevation) and extreme vulnerability to users.

I'd rather focus on opening P2 to 3rd party installers [1] and offered
users more OS-specific experience. No need to reinvent the wheel.

[1] Bug 378329: Support 3rd party installers

Systems that manage software at the network level know how to talk to OS software management systems. This is a very big deal for many large companies and even quite useful for small & medium sized ones. It's useful to enable outreach as people would get Eclipse just like everything else... be it yum, pacman, zypper, apt, etc. Pity Windows lacks a proper software management system or at least did the last time I ran it.

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