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Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] p2 update

I agree with David.  Whatever is least surprising and most easily ignored
by the community is the least likely to be negatively received.   That
choice might actually not be what's technically "best" for the users, but
ultimately happy ignorant users define what's best in terms of positive
public relations.

I'm very pleased to see support for adding plugins to the plugins folder be
restored.  It's exactly what we need to ensure that this p2 transition will
be painless and hence positive.  Whomever decided to do that deserve a PR

Note that I've found a workaround for though I'm not all
that happy with it...  I'd like to thank Pascal for his support.

Ed Merks/Toronto/IBM@IBMCA
mailto: merks@xxxxxxxxxx
905-413-3265  (t/l 313)

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> What do you guys think?

Well, you already know what I think :)

But, to repeat the gist here, our WTP Prime Directive: Break no one.

Most of us are under a great deal of pressure to never, ever break our
customers in any way, no matter how cool the new thing is, and when we do,
for some advantage to the user, to at least give them a choice in the
matter, so they don't all have to "migrate" or "buy in" to the improved way
at the same time.

I think if the option was on by default (so old behavior worked) then that
would be best received, exhibit the best Eclipse Citizenship, and allow
people to eventually learn that if they turned it off, and used P2, that
their startup performance would be much faster (I'm assuming).

And, of course, products could set their own configurations and
eclipse.ini's to what they think appropriate for their customers ... and,
I'd guess, by next release, next year, the default could change (if P2 is
as successful as I think it will be).
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