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RE: [cross-project-issues-dev] Agenda for tomorrow's call?
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Hi Kim,
thanks a lot for the reference to
Platform-releng-signedbuild.
Tremendously helpful indeed.
With respect to packing & signing Europa, I'm afraid
that not only developers but also users are concerned:
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My understanding is that when you grab something from an update site,
and some features are signed but others not, you'll have to accept many
dialogs informing you that some features are not signed [this is from hearsay,
didn't test myself though]. So it appears that signing Europa is an
all-or-nothing matter.
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I've experienced cases where signed & packed bundles simply could
not be retrieved from the update site. Yes I agree this needs to be analyzed
and fixed, but are we OK if some bundles on Europa just cannot be consumed yet
by Java 1.5 clients because of sign & pack issues? The following may be
particularly hot:
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=168583
Cheers,
--
Martin Oberhuber
Wind River Systems,
Inc.
Target Management Project Lead, DSDP PMC Member
http://www.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm
Descriptions of the scripts that
the platform teams uses for signing are here
http://wiki.eclipse.org/index.php/JAR_Signing
http://wiki.eclipse.org/index.php/Platform-releng-signedbuild
We have been using packed jars since
early 2006. We have been using signed bulds since shortly after 3.3 M3.
As is the case with the implementation of any new technology, there are
bugs that will arise and need to be worked through. Having a larger
number of teams packing and signing their jars will result in a more solid
implementation that accounts for a broader range of use cases.
Kim
"Oberhuber, Martin"
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Hi all,
do we have a (Wiki based?) agenda for tomorrow's
call?
The one item that I'd like to discuss is the usage of pack200 &
sign for the Europa site.
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Should we all pack & sign already?
* Where are the scripts for pack & sign that the platform is
using?
We've had bad problems with pack200 and signing, especially when nested
jars are involved. My feeling is that signed-and-packed jars are not yet ready
for general consumption. See https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=163421
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=168344
Cheers,
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Martin Oberhuber
Wind River Systems,
Inc.
Target Management Project Lead, DSDP PMC Member
http://www.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm
From:
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[mailto:cross-project-issues-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kim
Moir
Sent: Monday, December 18, 2006 6:35 PM
To: Cross
project issues
Subject: [cross-project-issues-dev] added 3.3M4
feature versions to Europa
I've added our 3.3M4 features to
org.eclipse.europa.tools/build-home/features-ep.xml.
Since the Europa "Should
Do" item #5 mentions the need to provide SDK features, I've included the SDK
feature in the list of features to be copied to the update site.
http://wiki.eclipse.org/index.php/Europa_Simultaneous_Release#Must_Do
Given this point, has the
starting zip has changed for Europa? With Callisto, I made a page each
milestone that listed all the platform runtimes to download for inclusion on
the Callisto site. Is the starting point for users who download Europa
projects with update manager going to be the platform runtime zip or the SDK?
I recall last time that there were some concerns with advising people to
start with the SDK because it's a larger download which consumes more
bandwidth and many people don't use the source anyways.
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