RE: [cross-project-issues-dev] Callisto quality

[Olivier Thomann <Olivier_Thomann@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Definitely a +1.

Olivier




"Mike Milinkovich" <mike.milinkovich@xxxxxxxxxxx> 
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2006-04-28 15:37
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Here is some draft text to introduce people to Callisto and to hopefully 
help set realistic expectations. The idea is to put this at the top of 
http://download.eclipse.org/callisto/releases/
 
In case anyone is wondering, the choice of a conversational tone was very 
much on purpose. See 
http://headrush.typepad.com/creating_passionate_users/2005/01/your_users_brai.html
 
Comments appreciated.

 
What is this?
 
This page is to help users discover and download the projects and features 
which are part of the Eclipse Callisto simulantaneous release. The idea 
behind Callisto is to help Eclipse adopters by making ten Eclipse projects 
available at the same time. We hope that for those building products and 
applications using Eclipse frameworks and tools having all of these 
projects available simultaneously will simplify their development.
 
But it is also important to understand what Callisto is not. 
Callisto is not a single product. We're co-ordinating the timing of 
releases, but little or no effort has gone into enabling end-to-end 
scenarios or ensuring a seamless user experience. It's not that we don't 
think those are good ideas, but we didn't get to it this time around. 
Maybe in a future simultaneous release we will have the opportunity to do 
more along those lines.
Downloading Callisto is still going to take some knowledge and effort. 
Doing what we can to simplify the experience is what this page is about 
(see below)[1]. In previous Eclipse releases, adopters would typically 
download the Eclipse SDK or Runtime Binary and then use the UpdateManager 
to download the other Eclipse projects they needed as they became 
available. We're making all ten projects available on the same day, but 
the download experience remains fundamentally the same. Again, this is an 
area where we may look at improving in the future.
Special Note on Release Candidates (RC's)
 
As we are entering the end-game for Callisto, it is important that you 
recognize that each of the projects are still at varying degrees of 
completion and stability. So, for example, as of the end of April, the 
Java Development Tools are at RC1 level, which for them means they're 
pretty solid. Other projects such as CDT are at RC0, which is their first 
feature freeze release. So don't be surprised by varying degrees of 
completion and polish. But regardless, we are hoping that you will take 
the time to try out as many of the Callisto projects as possible and give 
us your feedback.
 
You can Help Make Callisto a Better Place!
 
Shipping ten projects at the same time is a big job. Everyone in the 
Eclipse community can help - and that includes you. We're asking everyone 
who downloads any part of Callisto to help us with finding and reporting 
bugs. No matter how big or small, we are asking that if you notice 
anything that's not quite right that you report a bug to us. Everyone who 
reports a bug has an opportunity of having their bug nominated to 
participate in the Callisto Bug Finding Contest. The author of every 
nominated bug gets a cool Eclipse Callisto t-shirt, and there are draws 
for iPods and a grand prize of an Eclipse mountain bike.
 
When you're reporting your bug, we ask that you please make an effort to 
determine which project is the source of the bug. But if all else fails, 
we have defined a Callisto component, so you can report your bug via the 
Eclipse Foundation. Just go here, select "Callisto" from the Component 
list and enter your bug. If you need any help with figuring out Eclipse's 
bug reporting system, you can find some here .
 

[1] note that this assumes that this text is the preamble to 
http://download.eclipse.org/callisto/releases/, and that the update 
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