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RE: [cross-project-issues-dev] Callsito M5 is missing GEF and VE - where's the commitment to participate?

I blame the Tools PMC, oh, wait, I’m part of that now! Apologies ;-)


Doug Schaefer, QNX Software Systems

Eclipse CDT Project Lead,


From: cross-project-issues-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cross-project-issues-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Frederic Plante
Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 9:34 AM
To: Cross project issues
Cc:; John Duimovich; djo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; John Kellerman; cross-project-issues-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx; hudsonr@xxxxxxxxxx; cross-project-issues-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Callsito M5 is missing GEF and VE - where's the commitment to participate?



Long story short we learned about the Callisto M5 requirement the last day of GEF's milestone. Going forward Steve Shaw should attend the Callisto meeting for GEF.

Because GEF's build recently moved to Ottawa and GEF did not even have an update site to begin with, it was not possible to be done on time regardless of our best efforts.

The good news now is that we turned it around:



       - Fred

Frédéric Plante
Rational Software, IBM Software Group

Bjorn Freeman-Benson <bjorn.freeman-benson@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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03/01/2006 02:03 AM

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John Duimovich/Ottawa/IBM@IBMCA, djo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, hudsonr@xxxxxxxxxx


John Kellerman <kellrman@xxxxxxxxxx>, cross-project-issues-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx, "" <>


[cross-project-issues-dev] Callsito M5 is missing GEF and VE -        where's the commitment to participate?




<Warning>I'm done being the nice guy; I'm tired of some project leads saying they want to be part of Callisto but then not actually participating in the "Callsito community".</Warning>

Dave, Randy, John,
The Callisto M5 milestone schedule (that we all agreed to), had GEF and VE being available (the milestone complete and ready to go on the update sites) on 24-Feb.  Today is 28-Feb 11pm PST and neither of your milestones are available on the Callisto staging update site.  Are you planning on being full members of Callisto?  Perhaps you don't like the requirement to be part of the update site? If so, you should speak up rather than just ignoring our collective decisions. At the very least, you should be telling the rest of the Callisto team that you are having troubles meeting the requirements - saying nothing is really not an option here.

In the last Callisto conference calls you said you were on track/status green (here and here) - what happened? Did "status green" not include actually producing an update site?

John, Randy,
Neither of you have attended a single one of the Callisto conference calls.  Nor have you bothered to provide your regrets - you've just plain been missing.  You're on the mailing lists. You know the schedule.  So what's the story? Too important to participate?  It certainly isn't showing much community participation if you can't even be bother to tell us that you're not going to call in...

- Bjorn
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