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Re: [cdt-dev] Eclipse Embedded C/C++ Development Tools

Ah, memories. The DD project was part of the DSDP top level project created for Wind River when they became a Strategic Member. When they dropped from that status, DSDP was shut down and the remnants (including the TM Terminal project) were spread around. We took DD which gave us DSF. It bugged me as pure politics why they were separate to begin with so it felt good that things came together in the end.

So M-A was putting words in my mouth that were already there ;).

And, yes, one thought is to have everything in one project to make it easier for contributors to drift between the different pieces. If you think there will be a big overlap between the committers to this new project and CDT, then it probably should be part of CDT. If not, well then whatever is easier to manage.

Doug.

On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 1:07 PM Marc-Andre Laperle <malaperle@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi Liviu,

I am glad those tools are coming under the Eclipse umbrella. I think it will will benefit the community greatly.
I’m not 100% sure about a different Eclipse project. Sorry I haven't been part of the discussions so my points might have been discussed already...

Historically, much of the CDT community was built around embedded development interests see Windriver, QNX, Nokia, Ericsson, etc. The fact that there was not much end-user embedded feature was because the actual toolchains were specific to the vendors or had little interest to the greater community. My point is that CDT already has a strong community and history around embedded development, even though right now there are not many committers or user-facing features - much of the code base has been developed with embedded in mind. I don’t think there is not much value in splitting the community across two projects except maybe to have more control over releases (maybe that’s the main reason?).
I also have in mind the DD project which was separate from CDT and ended up being migrated in CDT . I don't want to put words in people mouths but I think there was a feeling that this should have been in CDT in the first place since there was much overlap between the communities and having DD in CDT increased its visibility and adoption by both users and developers.
There is also the fact that CDT would benefit from an increase of activity and committers right now. If there is concern about branding of "GNU MCU Eclipse", I think it would have nice exposure as an EPP package regardless if it's delivered by CDT or a new project.

In any case, I'm glad to see this come to Eclipse regardless of the outcome.

Cheers,
Marc-André

On Nov 12, 2019, at 12:38 PM, Liviu Ionescu <ilg@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On 6 Nov 2019, at 20:10, Jonah Graham <jonah@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

GNU MCU Eclipse ... Notify cdt-dev once public

FYI: The proposal is public now:

https://projects.eclipse.org/proposals/eclipse-embedded-cc-development-tools

There is also a Bugzilla record for this:

https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=552964


I guess this is a no-action for you, but if you have comments/suggestions, please feel free to contribute them.


Regards,

Liviu

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