Hi,
I
had taken some notes as I understood (and from my own
interest pov, this is no minutes, also I dozed a lot :)), I
will share with you here, and if they are helpful (and
correct :)) we can add them to the wiki.
#### Session1 10:30
- General
##### Announcements
-
**Juno will be 4.2** the default CDT downloaded from the site
will be 4.2.
-
**There will be no Eclipse 3.9 release** (so far) so we need
to think about this.
-
** Next CDT (Juno) will be 8.1, so no API breakage**
#####
Discussions
-
Discussion whether/when CDT will use 4.x APIs so that it will
break compatibility with 3.x builds.
-
Shall CDT use Gerrit to allow external contributors (like me)
to submit patches and handle review using it. Seems the
sentiment is in favor though Committers would like to have the
option to override.
_Doug submitted
request to enable gerrit on cdt with committer bypass if
possible_
- Reproducible
builds? unannounced session Wednesday 10:15 Reston Suite A.
this is part of the Platform's effort for long term support.
-
Shall we allow non-committers to modify Bugzilla (triage, mark
as duplicate, ...)? possibly yes
-
irc for cdt? any committers reading cdt-user forum? irc seems
out, list of active committers is very small, no full time
devs, so it would be hard.
#####
Session2 1:30pm - Debug
-
Multicore debug visualization session tomorrow
-
again mentioning the need of contribution, and how to increase
that. CDT users are not Java developers, so users can't
usually help fix issues.
-
CDT have been sitting on 1100-1200 bugs for the past couple of
years, so we are doing a good job of fixing what comes in, but
may be we need to cleanup
-
Multicore-visualizer teazer: nice visualization of your cores
and the state of threads running on them, you can drill from
this to the debug views. Discussion on whether this is
debugging. monitoring or tracing. Possible cooperation with
what PTP have been doing in this area, think BlueGene.
There is a framework
for visualization that this is built on to allow adding
different visualizers
##### Session3 -
Codan C++11
-
How to integrate external linting tools
#####
Session4 - New New Project wizard
-
The idea of getting rid of the new project wizard is not that
liked
-
The preferred solution is to use intelligent templates and
have the wizard remember the previous settings so that the
user should only type project name/location then hit finish.
#####
Session5 - Gerrit demo
-
All looks well except for the fact that web ui by default
allows for merge commits which is a no-no in cdt, there is no
way to rebase-commit.
-
Gerrit allows external contributors to +1 (recommend) a patch,
but only committers can +2 (accept) it .
-
Hudson can be set as reviewer, can +1 (ok), -1 (tests fail),
-2 (build fail)
##### Session6 -
Remote project demo
-
demo for a patch to allow creating projects on an rse location
and work on that normally in eclipse bug373601
##### BuildSystem
- Vladimir asks
whether managed build is a correct way to go, shall we try to
improve it, rewrite it, ...
-
Long discussion on Managed Build Systems, seems everyone has a
different pov on what is important for users depending on
his/her major customers. Doug mentions the 1.5M downloads of
CDT so user base is much larger.
- All agree that
current solution is a bit of a mess.
- Doug thinks there
is no point in rewriting Managed Build
- Martin prefers not
to hide data inside CDT and provide it in external files. Anna
mentions Autotools.
- Martin prefers to
focus on easier support of external build systems (think
CMake, ...) and providing extensible framework for that.
- Vladimir mentions
custom UI for each different build system. All agrees it is a
huge amount of work. Extensible framework might be a solution,
but it needs to be well architected
- Sergey mentions
New Scanner Discovery (AndrewG)
- After lots of
discussions, seems the solution is to get more committers in,
so ppl need to get "handful" of patches :)
Hi Doug,
Was there anything discussed that other contributors who
were not at the summit should know about?
Thanks,
Marc-Andre
On 3/27/2012 9:46 AM, Doug Schaefer wrote:
Just a reminder of the CDT
contributor's summit today starting at 10:30 in Reston
Suites A. If you haven't contributed yet, showing up
counts as a contribution :), so all are invited.
We'll have introductions at the
beginning and complete the agenda and assign times to them
so people can come and go. Hopefully the wifi stays up
long enough for us to update the wiki as we go as well.
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