Re: [cdt-dev] DSF/CDI Launchers weirdness

[Doug Schaefer <cdtdoug@xxxxxxxxx>]

I find the whole thing a bit weird. What this is showing is that the Eclipse Launch system, didn't anticipate that there would be multiple launch configurations types for a given way of launching. As there shouldn't be more than one config type to "Run" a C++ Local Application (they all do the same anyway, no?), there probably shouldn't be more than one config type to "Debug" a C++ Local Application. We've abstracted at the wrong level and that's just confusing as hell. Our users won't get it. And our vendors still won't use what we provide.

Sorry, just venting, and a bit sad that the situation hasn't improved any in 7.0. It's still quite a mess.

On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 2:09 PM, Marc Khouzam <marc.khouzam@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I think the problem becomes visible because you have EDC.
When I don't have EDC and I select Run As, there is no prompt
and the program launches using CDI.  This is fine
because there is actually no debugging going on.

Once you have EDC, I believe the platform no longer knows
which between CDI and EDC to choose, and that is why you get the prompt.

So, maybe adding support in DSF-GDB for Run, may not be the right solution.
Do we really want to have the user need to choose a debugger integration
even for Run?  Why choose between CDI, DSF-GDB or EDC, when there will
be no debugging?

How about a single launch delegate for Run, for all of CDT?

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Alena Laskavaia
> Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 12:39 PM
> To: Pawel Piech
> Cc: CDT General developers list.
> Subject: Re: [cdt-dev] DSF/CDI Launchers weirdness
>

> Well it has EDC there too in the list for Run. I don't know if it is
> different but it technically I pick EDC for run instead of standard
> launch.
>
> On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 12:35 PM, Pawel Piech
> <pawel.piech@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > This appears to be a bug in the multiple launchers support
> in platform.
> >  Could you file it as a bug?
> >
> > I think the correct behavior would be for the launch
> framework to use CDI
> > without prompting you whenever you select the run.
> > -Pawel
> >
> > Alena Laskavaia wrote:
> >>
> >> I was playing a bit with debugger lately and work flow is
> really awkward
> >> for me.
> >> I don't have official build I am running from the trunk
> but what I see is
> >> weird.
> >> So looks like DSF does not have a "Launcher" (the stuff you switch
> >> using link in the bottom) for Run
> >> configuration, but does for Debug. So I have to pick
> different ones for
> >> Run
> >> and Debug. So I compile my app and do Run As->Local C++
> App - and it gives
> >> me list which does not include DFS - so I pick standard.
> When I debug
> >> I have to do it again to switch to DSF. If I do opposite -
> pick DFS from
> >> Debug -
> >> when I do Run - my launch for run - does not do anything, cannot be
> >> terminated and
> >> deleted, and if I open launch configuration it shows that
> I use DSF -
> >> which is not in the
> >> list if I click on link.
> >>
> >> Is it expected behaviour?
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