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RE: [cdt-dev] Performance issues with indexer/refresh on large scale project

Thanks for these remarks. So, at the moment, I'm lost with this :-( As a last resort, I can hide folders on the ClearCase level, but that's not exactly what I want. (It#s nice to have the test folder hidden in the DIE, but it's not so nice if is no longer available on the command line either...)
 
I had a look at the bug report Tim mentioned, https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=181020. I guess even if that was solved, it wouldn't help us too much, as we have much more folders to include than to exclude. It would become quite a hassle to setup the project to include only the needed folders (~200) instead of excluding the 5 unwanted ones.
 
The flexible resource feature will allow to exclude specific parts of the source tree, Doug?
 
BTW: any pointer to my other two questions? Thanks again!
  Achim


From: cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tim.Kelly@xxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 5:35 PM
To: cdt-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [cdt-dev] Performance issues with indexer/refresh on large scale project

>>Just to clarify, the flexible resource feature that was done for e4 is being contributed to Eclipse 3.6
 
Oh, thanks for clarifying : )


From: cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of ext Doug Schaefer
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 10:29 AM
To: CDT General developers list.
Subject: Re: [cdt-dev] Performance issues with indexer/refresh on large scale project



On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 11:18 AM, <Tim.Kelly@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Some things we found when doing performance analysis/benchmarking in a similar scenario (the general case for Nokia developers):
 
1) Import time is linear WRT # of source files under the root.
After about 15K source files under the root it took a couple minutes to import a project.
At about 25K source files is took almost 5 minutes. We decided import was the time you click Finish on a project creation wizard until you can open a source file from the Project Explorer.
We added a timer to our project creation action posted the project creation time to the error log the same way the Indexer does (i.e. Indexed '<project>' ....) so we could monitor problematic projects.
The majority of time importing is spent querying the file system for file attribs & directory sublists (refreshing is actually quite fast though to the user it appears to be a a lingering job)
 
2) Indexing time is related to # of file under the source roots. We introduced the concept of nested source roots but I see the target milestone was set to 7.0.
See bug https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=181020. The most extreme case we got indexing down from 324 seconds to 27 seconds by addressing nested source paths.
 
However, for you case of 40K source files, I think you will need e4 (as Doug already mentioned). I found any project with that many source files under the root makes the IDE about unusable.

Just to clarify, the flexible resource feature that was done for e4 is being contributed to Eclipse 3.6. So you don't need e4, but you will need the next release of the Platform.
 
Tim


From: cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of ext Doug Schaefer
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 9:23 AM
To: CDT General developers list.
Subject: Re: [cdt-dev] Performance issues with indexer/refresh on large scale project



On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 10:07 AM, Bursian, Achim <achim.bursian@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi all,
I'm running into serious performance problems with a ~40k files C++ project (standard make project on Solaris/Sparc with ClearCase as SCC). Importing and indexing the project takes hours, which is at least partly caused by a lot of unnecessary files being opened.
 
Three questions:
* How can I programmatically disable the automatic indexing for a period of time, and reenable it later (I found that it's faster to do a refresh without the indexer running, and doing a full indexer run afterwards)? I'd try to do that in a startup plugin, which would disable indexing, import the project, refresh everything, then run the indexer. Maybe that could speed up things...
 
* I would like to exclude a complete part of the project hierarchy from being seen by Eclipse and CDT. I thought the "filter" setting ("Source folder exclusion pattern") on the CDT source folders property page would do just that, but no. I excluded the "test/" folder and some others with the filter, now it is no longer shown in the project explorer. But monitoring the system with Solaris dtrace shows that the whole <projectroot>/test folder hierarchy is still scanned (stat system call) during a refresh, and a lot of files there even get opened (Imakefiles, *.txt, *.xml). This is quite bad, as it contains 20k files that are only testcases and data stuff. Anything I can do?

This is actually the Eclipse Platform refreshing your project, not the CDT. This is one of the main drivers for the Flexible Resources feature coming in this year's train release, to cut down on what Eclipse sees in a project directory tree.
 
* Is there any general guideline for setting up such a large scale project with CDT, anywhere?
 
Thanks!
  Achim
 
 

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