RE: [cdt-dev] Why does CDT contribute to early Startup?

["Oberhuber, Martin" <Martin.Oberhuber@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hello Mikhail,

For CDT Debug UI, I filed this bug;
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=197178

Could somebody else comment why CDT Standard Make
contributes earlyStartup?

Thanks,
--
Martin Oberhuber
Wind River Systems, Inc.
Target Management Project Lead, DSDP PMC Member
http://www.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx 
> [mailto:cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mikhail Khodjaiants
> Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 5:12 PM
> To: CDT General developers list.
> Subject: RE: [cdt-dev] Why does CDT contribute to early Startup?
> 
> Martin,
> 
> The early startup for the CDT debugger is required to activate the
> adapters used by the platform views. A CDT debug session can 
> be started
> without using any of the CDT debug components (by clicking the Debug
> button on the toolbar, for example). In this case the adapters are not
> registered and the views are not rendered properly. 
> Probably, there is a way to load it lazily. Please, submit a 
> request and
> we will look at it.
> 
> Regards,
> Mikhail
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of Oberhuber, Martin
> Sent: 19 July 2007 15:23
> To: CDT General developers list.
> Cc: Stieber, Uwe; Gutschelhofer,Martin
> Subject: [cdt-dev] Why does CDT contribute to early Startup?
> Importance: High
> 
> Dear CDT developers,
> 
> I noticed today that CDT contributes to earlyStartup:
> Window > Preferences > General > Startup and Shutdown
>    "C/C++ Development Tools Debugger UI"
>    "C/C++ Standard make Build UI"
> 
> I'm slightly worried about these entries, because they mean 
> that even if
> I do not use anything from CDT it will activate practically 
> all the CDT
> plugins (since Debugger UI depends on UI, which depends on 
> Core; Make UI
> depends on Make core); thus making my Eclipse startup time worse.
> 
> Is it really necessary to have these start up automatically? What
> happens if I disable these?
> Can these be improved in the future to allow for lazy plugin 
> loading and
> thus improved startup time?
> 
> Fast startup time is quite important for our commercial product...
> 
> Thanks,
> --
> Martin Oberhuber
> Wind River Systems, Inc.
> Target Management Project Lead, DSDP PMC Member
> http://www.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm
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