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RE: [cdt-dev] RE: [dsdp-tm-dev] RSE eclipse files system

Near remotes is a good start. But by blow up, I mean massive NPEs everywhere. I may be exaggerating the affects, but I’m just trying to make sure expectations are set accordingly and as Greg mentioned, not to expect this in 4.0, unless it turns out to be easy, but right now I think that’ll be unlikely.

 

Doug Schaefer, QNX Software Systems
Eclipse CDT Project Lead, http://cdtdoug.blogspot.com


From: cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Oberhuber, Martin
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 12:09 PM
To: CDT General developers list.
Subject: RE: [cdt-dev] RE: [dsdp-tm-dev] RSE eclipse files system

 

IMHO, caching is much less important than making it work in principle.

 

An RSE ssh connection to a "near" host is fast enough for most operations.

And there are scenarios where even "near" hosts do not support

cross-mounted file systems due to security reasons, but an

ssh connection is acceptable.

 

I'd vote for at least making the Outline View work reliably over EFS.

I'm sure that many people would be happy with that already.

Cheers,
--
Martin Oberhuber
Wind River Systems, Inc.
Target Management Project Lead, DSDP PMC Member
http://www.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm

 

 


From: cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Doug Schaefer
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 4:56 PM
To: CDT General developers list.
Subject: RE: [cdt-dev] RE: [dsdp-tm-dev] RSE eclipse files system

Yes, I’ve tried using EFS with the CDT over an ftp connection and it blows up quite badly. We need someone with vested interest to go through and make it all work from end to end, and make it work well. My feeling is that part of this will require better caching. For example, CModelManager.createBinaryFile(), which I’ve been playing with lately, gets called a lot. We don’t seem to cache the information effectively.

 

Doug Schaefer, QNX Software Systems
Eclipse CDT Project Lead, http://cdtdoug.blogspot.com


From: cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Sheldon Dsouza
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 10:00 AM
To: CDT General developers list.
Subject: Re: [cdt-dev] RE: [dsdp-tm-dev] RSE eclipse files system

 

Hi,

         At the moment i have my own wizards for creating C/C++ like projects for  my application. Now while the project is created i have added the new filesystem combo box which enables the user to select the type of filesystem e.g RSE. I got most of this functionality from the BasicNewProjectWizard which works for simple projects. Now in order to complete the entire process i will have to convert all the IPaths present in my project creation wizards to URI's which i feel will enable me to create my project remotely.
       Since i heavily depend on the CDT framework, and also extending the CDT project creation wizards i guess it will have an effect on my project creation as the CDT still does not completely support EFS.

Regards,
Sheldon
        

On 4/18/07, Oberhuber, Martin <Martin.Oberhuber@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hi,

 

regarding the "magic extension": due to some issues in org.eclipse.core.resources,

I'd recommend creating a "normal" cdt project and then doing

  File > New > Folder > Advanced > Link to folder in file system > uncheck "default location"

     > select EFS provider > Browse to remote folder

 

Doing that, CDT is capable of opening remote files in the editor, and (sometimes)

showing an outline view.

 

For the fixes required in CDT, an old patch exists from Tianchao Li:

https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=142092

 

It should be good to "somehow" improve the EFS awareness of CDT,

though the way how include paths are funneled through EFS URIs

looks a bit scary. Perhaps the simpler and safer parts of this patch

could be applied.

 

Another overview bug for EFS in CDT is

https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=177994

Cheers,
--
Martin Oberhuber
Wind River Systems, Inc.
Target Management Project Lead, DSDP PMC Member
http://www.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm

 

 


From: cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Doug Schaefer
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 3:13 PM
To: Target Management developer discussions; CDT General developers list.
Subject: [cdt-dev] RE: [dsdp-tm-dev] RSE eclipse files system

Cross posting to cdt-dev.

 

Doug Schaefer, QNX Software Systems
Eclipse CDT Project Lead, http://cdtdoug.blogspot.com


From: dsdp-tm-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto: dsdp-tm-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Doug Schaefer
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 9:10 AM
To: Target Management developer discussions
Subject: RE: [dsdp-tm-dev] RSE eclipse files system

 

There's a magic extension that needs to be created in order to inform the Eclipse resource manager that an EFS can be used to create projects. I'm not sure if that has been done for the RSE. If it has, then the CDT's new project wizard isn't standard and you should raise a bug report against it.

 

There are bigger issues at the moment for using EFS with the CDT. There are a number of places where we're assuming IPath's to access files. Those need to be changed to URI's. I'm a bit scared to change them all at this stage of the CDT's Europa cycle since we're a week and a half away from feature freeze. This might have to wait until next year.

 

Doug Schaefer, QNX Software Systems
Eclipse CDT Project Lead, http://cdtdoug.blogspot.com


From: dsdp-tm-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto: dsdp-tm-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Sheldon Dsouza
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 6:32 AM
To: Target Management developer discussions
Subject: [dsdp-tm-dev] RSE eclipse files system

 

Hi,

      I had a look at the new EFS for RSE and it works fine for creating simple projects, i just wanted to know if the new EFS has been integrated into CDT project creation. I recently update to the latest CDT and the functionality does not exist, but i remember seeing it in the previous versions. Is the integration held back due to the major changes to the new project model in CDT?

Regards,
Sheldon


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