RE: [cdt-dev] CDT at Eclipsecon

["Gaff, Doug" <doug.gaff@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi folks,

Well, I understand your frustrations.  I agree you almost need a
separate conference for CDT.  I think that's actually true for quite a
few of the projects.  The mini-conference idea on Monday is a good one,
although I don't know if there are any empty rooms available from
Eclipse.  I'll ask at the next Program Committee meeting.  I imagine it
wouldn't be too hard to rent a conference room for the day if you wanted
to go that route.  Also, someone from the project (Doug S perhaps) can
create a "recommended track" that will show up on the EclipseCon
website.  Bjorn sent instructions for doing this to
eclipse.org-technology-leads.  This will highlight all talks that you
think would be interesting to CDT developers and users.

Tutorials:  these slots were even more coveted than the long talks, if
you can image that.

Ken Dyck talk:  my impression was that AMI actually built a commercial
product on top of CDT, so this would therefore be a perfect talk for
ISV's doing the same thing.  Perhaps I'm wrong about the details of what
they've done, though.

BOF's:  these are scheduled ad-hoc at the conference.

Anyway, I still hope you are all coming to Eclipse, and I look forward
to seeing you there.

Doug G

-----Original Message-----
From: cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Doug Schaefer
Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 2:51 PM
To: CDT General developers list.
Subject: RE: [cdt-dev] CDT at Eclipsecon

Actually, I'm just happy we got one long talk. It was looking like
nothing
there for a while.

I guess the ideal situation would have been a tutorial for ISV's.
Something
that can be more interactive than a long talk could provide. Actually,
for
the next summit, I'd like to see us more in the code than we were at the
last one and maybe take a more ISV-centric approach.

I also think we need to go beyond the one shot conference to share all
information. We have the wiki set up and the ISV docs as a way a way to
educate vendors. Our website definitely needs improvement so that ISVs
know
where to find information and help build excitement around the CDT. It
would
be a more lasting solution.

Doug Schaefer, QNX Software Systems
Eclipse CDT Project Lead, http://cdtdoug.blogspot.com
 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx]
On
> Behalf Of Recoskie, Chris
> Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 2:30 PM
> To: CDT General developers list.
> Subject: RE: [cdt-dev] CDT at Eclipsecon
> 
> And Jeff's is a tutorial, not a long talk.
> 
> So that leaves Doug and Greg, although Greg's is more of a PTP talk as
> opposed to a CDT one (not that CDT isn't involved in there somewhere).
> So basically there is one long talk that's directly CDT related, and
> it's on the user track.
> 
> I think part of the complaint from the community is that there aren't
> really any developer track items relating to what the various bits of
> CDT do and how they work.  If you're an ISV and your primary goal is
to
> find out how to create a product based on CDT, you're not going to
find
> a lot on the program that meets that goal.  Granted, there were not
too
> many submissions in this vein either though.
> 
> Anyway, just an explanation on my part.  In no way would I want to
give
> the perception that any of the talks/tutorials you mention don't
deserve
> to be there.  I'm looking forward to them all the same.
> ___________________________________________
> 
> Chris Recoskie
> Software Designer
> Texas Instruments, Toronto
> http://eclipse.org/cdt
> 
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> On
> > Behalf Of Mikhail Khodjaiants
> > Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 1:42 PM
> > To: CDT General developers list.
> > Subject: Re: [cdt-dev] CDT at Eclipsecon
> >
> > Doug,
> >
> > Calling the Ken Dyck's presentation CDT-related is a little
> exageration :)
> >
> > Mikhail
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Gaff, Doug" <doug.gaff@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: "CDT General developers list." <cdt-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 1:00 PM
> > Subject: RE: [cdt-dev] CDT at Eclipsecon
> >
> >
> > > Hi folks,
> > >
> > > I have to speak up, since I am on the Program Committee for
> EclipseCon
> > > 2006, and this complaint has been voiced by several talk
submitters
> > > already.
> > >
> > > There were over 170 submissions for Long Talks, and only 48
> > > developer/user track slots available!  It was difficult to get
even
> 1
> > > talk for each project, let alone several.  Here are the
CDT-related
> > > talks that I can see:
> > >
> > > Using the CDT on Large Legacy Projects - Doug Schaefer -
> > > http://canuck.gda.itesm.mx/eclipsezilla/show_bug.cgi?id=76
> > >
> > > Parallel Application Development With Eclipse - Greg Watson -
> > > http://canuck.gda.itesm.mx/eclipsezilla/show_bug.cgi?id=265
> > >
> > > 10 Tough Decisions You Must Make When Developing An Eclipse-based
> IDE -
> > > Ken Dyck -
> http://canuck.gda.itesm.mx/eclipsezilla/show_bug.cgi?id=279
> > >
> > > Adding a New Language to the CDT - Jeff Overbey -
> > > http://canuck.gda.itesm.mx/eclipsezilla/show_bug.cgi?id=163
> > >
> > > I think this representation is pretty good.  It's a diverse group
of
> > > topics around CDT, and it reflects the Program Committee's desire
to
> > > have above-average representation of the CDT project.
> > >
> > > Regarding short talks, perhaps you should put together your
> preferred
> > > list of CDT short talks.  I'd be happy to bring that list to the
> > > committee.  We are meeting on Friday to make short talk
selections.
> > >
> > > Doug G
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > On Behalf Of Recoskie, Chris
> > > Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 2:32 PM
> > > To: CDT General developers list.
> > > Subject: RE: [cdt-dev] CDT at Eclipsecon
> > >
> > > Usually we have some very good (and very long!) Birds of a Feather
> > > sessions at EclipseCon where we do a lot of discussion and
planning.
> > > Unfortunately most (but not all) of the CDT related long talks
were
> > > rejected.  We still might have some short talks.  There is also
the
> > > opportunity to waylay us over lunch or over beers so that you can
> pick
> > > our brains about things that are on your mind.
> > >
> > > If you are looking for an opportunity to network with the CDT
> committers
> > > and contributors, and an opportunity participate in our
discussions,
> > > then the trip would likely be worth it for you IMHO.  Obviously
> that's a
> > > decision that ultimately you have to make for yourself though.
> > > ___________________________________________
> > >
> > > Chris Recoskie
> > > Software Designer
> > > Texas Instruments, Toronto
> > > http://eclipse.org/cdt
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > On
> > >> Behalf Of dmsubs
> > >> Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 2:20 PM
> > >> To: 'CDT General developers list.'
> > >> Subject: [cdt-dev] CDT at Eclipsecon
> > >>
> > >> Hi all,
> > >>
> > >> Is there going to be much CDT activity at Eclipsecon? I've had a
> look
> > > at
> > >> the
> >
> > >> schedule and there doesn't seem to be much happening around CDT.
> I'm
> > >> wondering whether it will be worth going (I'll have to pay for
> myself,
> > >> flights from UK included!).
> > >>
> > >> Thanks,
> > >>
> > >> ---
> > >> Derek
> > >>
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