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Re: [ca-dev] [External] : Notnull and Nullable annotations on the Jakarta Annotation spec
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The annotation @Generated is different as its retention is Source, which means it will be ignored by compiler while Nonull and Nullable are for runtime,
On 4/26/22 12:11 PM, Emily Jiang via ca-dev wrote:
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 26, 2022 at 10:58 AM Lukas Jungmann
> <lukas.jungmann@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:lukas.jungmann@xxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>
> On 4/26/22 11:41 AM, Emily Jiang via ca-dev wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 25, 2022 at 4:21 PM Lukas Jungmann
> > <lukas.jungmann@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:lukas.jungmann@xxxxxxxxxx>
> <mailto:lukas.jungmann@xxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:lukas.jungmann@xxxxxxxxxx>>> wrote:
> >
> > On 4/25/22 4:12 PM, Emily Jiang via ca-dev wrote:
> > > Thank you Lukas!
> > > The annotation is not only for static analysis but also for
> > runtime as
> > > stated here
> > >
> >
> https://github.com/eclipse-ee4j/common-annotations-api/blob/master/spec/src/main/asciidoc/spec.adoc#jakartaannotationnonnull
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> >
> > >
> >
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> > > For the runtime bit, I think we need to ensure implementors
> > implement
> > > this. Right?
> >
> > If my Awesome Spec decides to define usage if this annotation, it
> > should
> > have the TCK to verify the behavior. Or are you trying to say
> that the
> > Annotations TCK has to have a test to verify the behavior of the
> > @Priority?
> >
> > This is not regarding @Priority as it was covered by CDI TCKs. As
> far as
> > I know, I don't see any tests for Nonnull or Nullable covered
> anywhere.
>
> The point is:
> CDI defines the behavior of @Priority => it has a test
> REST defines the behavior of @Priority => it has a test
> XML WS defines the behaviour of @Resource => it has a test
> no one (AFAIK) currently defines the behaviour of new annotations in
> any
> context => no one has a test
>
> if Annotation spec has to have a test(s) for @Null/@Nullable, then it
> must also have test(s) for @Priority, @Resource and others.
>
> There should be test coverage for all of the annotations defined. Some
> tests might live in a different place if the annotation was defined for
> that spec usage such as @Priority. In the @Nonnull and @Nullable case,
> since no other specs pull in, this spec needs to cover the tests for
> these annotations. This is clearly a gap.
Same "gap" is there for @Generated - is there a spec defining it?* - for
both (everything) there is signature test. User of many of these
annotations does not have to be a spec project - how a test for such
usage should look like? Ignore the fact @Priority is tested in CDI/REST
for a while - how the test for @Priority in the annotations TCK should
look like to avoid the discrepancy of how CDI and REST treat particular
values where 1 is the lowest priority for the former but the highest
priority for the latter?
thanks,
--lukas
* I'm aware of one, maybe two specs where this was used but defined as
"should" and in recent versions altered to also allow JDK version of
this annotation
>
> Does this make sense?
>
> thanks,
> --lukas
>
> >
> > thanks,
> > --lukas
> >
> >
> > > Thanks
> > > Emily
> > >
> > > On Mon, Apr 25, 2022 at 12:33 PM Lukas Jungmann
> > > <lukas.jungmann@xxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:lukas.jungmann@xxxxxxxxxx> <mailto:lukas.jungmann@xxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:lukas.jungmann@xxxxxxxxxx>>
> > <mailto:lukas.jungmann@xxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:lukas.jungmann@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > <mailto:lukas.jungmann@xxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:lukas.jungmann@xxxxxxxxxx>>>> wrote:
> > >
> > > On 4/25/22 1:02 PM, Emily Jiang via ca-dev wrote:
> > > > In Jakarta Common Annotations 2.1, the annotation
> @Notnull and
> > > @Nullable
> > > > were added to the specification via the issue 90
> > > >
> > >
> >
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> >
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> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Normally for other annotations defined in Jakarta
> Common
> > > Annotations,
> > > > the implementations were provided by other
> specifications.
> > >
> > > I do not think the statement applies to @Generated
> (which is
> > similar to
> > > if not the same as javax.annotation.processing.Generated).
> > > @Notnull/@Nullable are in the same group - they may be
> useful
> > to static
> > > analysis tools and to improve code readability
> > >
> > > For the above
> > > > new annotations, does it mean the implementation
> for common
> > > annotations
> > > > needs to provide the implementation as I was not
> sure which
> > > > specifications pull in these annotations? Does
> anyone know
> > where the
> > > > TCKs are for validating the implementation?
> > >
> > > AFAIK there is only signature test available in Jakarta
> > Annotations
> > > TCK[1]. Should your question be about ie @Priority -
> take the
> > spec
> > > which
> > > defines its usage and check its TCK (can be ie CDI,
> REST,..)
> > >
> > > thanks,
> > > --lukas
> > >
> > > [1]:
> > >
> >
> https://download.eclipse.org/jakartaee/annotations/2.1/jakarta-annotations-tck-2.1.0.zip
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