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RE: [aspectj-users] Alternative to glassbox?

I for one haven't seen any useful stripped-down ones. If you were not familiar with these links, I include them for your benefit:
 
http://www.javaworld.com/javaworld/jw-01-2002/jw-0118-aspect.html
 
http://www.javaworld.com/javaworld/jw-11-2004/jw-1108-windowspm.html
 
http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/java/library/j-aopwork10/
 
http://www.componative2.com/content/controller/developer/insights/jconsole1
 
http://www.devx.com/Java/Article/29526/1954
 
http://www.jinspired.com/products/jxinsight/new-in-5.5.html
 
http://java.sun.com/javase/technologies/core/mntr-mgmt/javamanagement/best-practices.jsp#mozTocId654884
 
This last one has a good discussion on ObjectName, but in practice, results may vary with the kind of monitoring application (e.g. JConsole versus JBoss).
 
The big gotcha you will run into is ObjectName + JMX. Sun's JMX specification is way underspecified, which led to different interpretations and handling of names. Everyone seems to use different schemes, and rarely do they play well together in practice. For instance, I have not found a scheme that plays well for both JBoss JMX Console and Sun's JConsole.
 
Bob
 

From: aspectj-users-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:aspectj-users-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ashley Williams
Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 9:50 AM
To: aspectj-users@xxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: aspectj-users@xxxxxxxxxxx; aspectj-users-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [aspectj-users] Alternative to glassbox?


Thanks, just as I suspected! I think I have an idea of how to approach this,
I just wanted to make sure there wasn't already a good fit already available.

aspectj-users-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote on 23/04/2008 14:10:24:

> Hi Ashley,

>  
> I have not seen many stripped down variants of Glassbox out there,
> or rather, none that were worth it. So we rolled out our own.

>  
> It would take an engineer about two-three weeks to write up a custom
> solution, and have it fully tested. There are several articles on
> the topic if you Google for them. There are two commercial products
> that provide online documentation, from which you can glean some
> design hints, and they may in some capacity also serve as examples
> of what not to do.

>  
> Best wishes,
>  
> Bob
>  
>
> From: aspectj-users-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:aspectj-users-
> bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ashley Williams
> Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 3:31 AM
> To: aspectj-users@xxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [aspectj-users] Alternative to glassbox?

>
> Hi,
>
> Just wondering if anybody knows of an alternative to glassbox for
> investigating performance. Glassbox looks great except for the following:
>
> 1. We want to monitor other virtual machines, not just a jboss one
> so a war component is no good to us
>
> 2. Additionally our api is asynchronous so performance based on
> around() advice for a single join point is no
> good to us: methods return almost immediately. So we want to test
> usually across 2 join points - eg the first
> when a message is sent (asynchronously ) and the second when it
> eventually arrives at in a jms queue for example.
>
> If there is nothing else out there then I'm sure we can come up with
> a custom solution.
>
> Thanks
> - Ashley Williams
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