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=1B$)COh, I see. Thank you for kind information. Many things are clear =
now.

One more question. sorry. Could you explain more about what will be mai=
nly
changed (or planned to be changed) from tptp choreography to B2J?
Just removing dependency of other tptp codes from choreography engine, =
or
what what else will be the major goal of changes?

Best Regards,
*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+
Paik, YoungSang (Keanu)
Advanced Mobile Solution Team in Ubiquitous Computing Lab (UCL)
IBM, Korea

Tel: (822)3781-7509, (8211)898-7509 Email: yspaik@kr.ibm.com
Address : The MMAA Bldg 467-12 Dogok-dong. Gangnam-gu, Seoul, Korea



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Hi Keanu,

B2J is being migrated from TPTP but during it's migration it will
undergo some changes to shift the focus of the project from TPTP to the=

goals of B2J.

The old part of the TPTP website is probably the best place to get
information about what code currently exists:

http://www.eclipse.org/tptp/platform/documents/design/choreo graphy_html=
/index.html


To get a feel for where we are going with it and how it will turn into
B2J you might want to take a look in particular at the old TPTP
choreography architecture document:

http://www.eclipse.org/tptp/platform/documents/design/choreo graphy_html=
/engine/architecture.html


The key bit is the 'replacable java engine implementation' part of the
'Choreography Engine' in the second diagram on the page.

The code is currently available under the TPTP
org.eclipse.tptp.choreography plugin but we hope to make it available
soon in STP CVS.


thanks

Antony


Keanu, Paik wrote:
> I am interested in b2j subproject of STP.
> I have several questions about it.
>
> I am curious about what it is in more detail.
> Is it runtime processing? or offline code generation?
>
> Can I get some documents about it? There's no available documentation=

> for programmers.
> Has the project been migrated from tptp? If it has, can I see the old=
er
> version of b2j on the tptp?
> Is the code available, if the code is immature?
>
> Thank you for answer in advance.
>
_______________________________________________
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stp-newsgroup@eclipse.org
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Just removing dependency of other tptp codes from choreography engine, =
or what what else will be the major goal of changes?<br>
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Best Regards, <br>
*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+<br>
Paik, YoungSang (Keanu)<br>
Advanced Mobile Solution Team in Ubiquitous Computing Lab (UCL)<br>
IBM, Korea<br>
<br>
Tel: (822)3781-7509, (8211)898-7509 Email: yspaik@kr.ibm.com<br>
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<tt>Hi Keanu,<br>
<br>
B2J is being migrated from TPTP but during it's migration it will <br>
undergo some changes to shift the focus of the project from TPTP to the=
<br>
goals of B2J.<br>
<br>
The old part of the TPTP website is probably the best place to get <br>=

information about what code currently exists:<br>
<br>
</tt><tt><a href=3D"http://www.eclipse.org/tptp/platform/documents/desi=
gn/choreography_html/index.html">http://www.eclipse.org/tptp/platform/d=
ocuments/design/choreography_html/index.html</a></tt><tt> <br>
<br>
To get a feel for where we are going with it and how it will turn into =
<br>
B2J you might want to take a look in particular at the old TPTP <br>
choreography architecture document:<br>
<br>
</tt><tt><a href=3D"http://www.eclipse.org/tptp/platform/documents/desi=
gn/choreography_html/engine/architecture.html">http://www.eclipse.org/t=
ptp/platform/documents/design/choreography_html/engine/archi tecture.htm=
l</a></tt><tt><br>
<br>
The key bit is the 'replacable java engine implementation' part of the =
<br>
'Choreography Engine' in the second diagram on the page.<br>
<br>
The code is currently available under the TPTP <br>
org.eclipse.tptp.choreography plugin but we hope to make it available <=
br>
soon in STP CVS.<br>
<br>
<br>
thanks<br>
<br>
Antony<br>
<br>
<br>
Keanu, Paik wrote:<br>
&gt; I am interested in b2j subproject of STP.<br>
&gt; I have several questions about it.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; I am curious about what it is in more detail.<br>
&gt; Is it runtime processing? or offline code generation?<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Can I get some documents about it? There's no available documentat=
ion <br>
&gt; for programmers.<br>
&gt; Has the project been migrated from tptp? If it has, can I see the =
older <br>
&gt; version of b2j on the tptp?<br>
&gt; Is the code available, if the code is immature?<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Thank you for answer in advance.<br>
&gt; <br>
_______________________________________________<br>
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Re: [stp-newsgroup] Re: Qs on b2j [message #373933 is a reply to message #373931] Tue, 07 February 2006 10:11 Go to previous message
Antony Miguel is currently offline Antony Miguel
Messages: 49
Registered: July 2009
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Hi Keanu,

Regarding the move of the code from TPTP to B2J the most important
change will be to remove dependencies on any TPTP code and leave that
code in TPTP under the current choreography plugin.

As far as other goals it will mainly be an opportunity to refactor and
tidy up in a temporary CVS before committing the code to STP CVS HEAD.

In the longer term, we are hoping to solicit requirements from other
members and interested parties in STP to see where and how they would
like to use B2J so we can develop it over time to suit a variety of uses.

At the moment for example, the engine framework APIs which the
translated Java use are internal and have only been used to create
standalone workflow engines which were to be used in TPTP. In the
future we want to expose these APIs to allow usage of the BPEL to Java
(B2J) translation in other environments. Doing that will likely mean
finding out what other environments people have and want to use it in to
see how we can fit them.

cheers

Antony

p.s. feel free to ask as many questions as you like on the newsgroups -
conversations on here benefit everyone.

YoungSang Paik wrote:
> Oh, I see. Thank you for kind information. Many things are clear now.
>
> One more question. sorry. Could you explain more about what will be
> mainly changed (or planned to be changed) from tptp choreography to B2J?
> Just removing dependency of other tptp codes from choreography engine,
> or what what else will be the major goal of changes?
>
> Best Regards,
> *+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+
> Paik, YoungSang (Keanu)
> Advanced Mobile Solution Team in Ubiquitous Computing Lab (UCL)
> IBM, Korea
>
> Tel: (822)3781-7509, (8211)898-7509 Email: yspaik@kr.ibm.com
> Address : The MMAA Bldg 467-12 Dogok-dong. Gangnam-gu, Seoul, Korea
>
> Inactive hide details for Antony Miguel
> <antony.miguel@scapatech.com>Antony Miguel <antony.miguel@scapatech.com>
>
>
> *Antony Miguel <antony.miguel@scapatech.com>*
> Sent by: stp-newsgroup-bounces@eclipse.org
>
> 2006-02-07 오전 03:21
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> To
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> [stp-newsgroup] Re: Qs on b2j
>
>
>
>
> Hi Keanu,
>
> B2J is being migrated from TPTP but during it's migration it will
> undergo some changes to shift the focus of the project from TPTP to the
> goals of B2J.
>
> The old part of the TPTP website is probably the best place to get
> information about what code currently exists:
>
> http://www.eclipse.org/tptp/platform/documents/design/choreo graphy_html/index.html
>
> To get a feel for where we are going with it and how it will turn into
> B2J you might want to take a look in particular at the old TPTP
> choreography architecture document:
>
> http://www.eclipse.org/tptp/platform/documents/design/choreo graphy_html/engine/architecture.html
>
> The key bit is the 'replacable java engine implementation' part of the
> 'Choreography Engine' in the second diagram on the page.
>
> The code is currently available under the TPTP
> org.eclipse.tptp.choreography plugin but we hope to make it available
> soon in STP CVS.
>
>
> thanks
>
> Antony
>
>
> Keanu, Paik wrote:
> > I am interested in b2j subproject of STP.
> > I have several questions about it.
> >
> > I am curious about what it is in more detail.
> > Is it runtime processing? or offline code generation?
> >
> > Can I get some documents about it? There's no available documentation
> > for programmers.
> > Has the project been migrated from tptp? If it has, can I see the older
> > version of b2j on the tptp?
> > Is the code available, if the code is immature?
> >
> > Thank you for answer in advance.
> >
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Re: [stp-newsgroup] Re: Qs on b2j [message #575029 is a reply to message #373931] Tue, 07 February 2006 10:11 Go to previous message
Antony Miguel is currently offline Antony Miguel
Messages: 49
Registered: July 2009
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Hi Keanu,

Regarding the move of the code from TPTP to B2J the most important
change will be to remove dependencies on any TPTP code and leave that
code in TPTP under the current choreography plugin.

As far as other goals it will mainly be an opportunity to refactor and
tidy up in a temporary CVS before committing the code to STP CVS HEAD.

In the longer term, we are hoping to solicit requirements from other
members and interested parties in STP to see where and how they would
like to use B2J so we can develop it over time to suit a variety of uses.

At the moment for example, the engine framework APIs which the
translated Java use are internal and have only been used to create
standalone workflow engines which were to be used in TPTP. In the
future we want to expose these APIs to allow usage of the BPEL to Java
(B2J) translation in other environments. Doing that will likely mean
finding out what other environments people have and want to use it in to
see how we can fit them.

cheers

Antony

p.s. feel free to ask as many questions as you like on the newsgroups -
conversations on here benefit everyone.

YoungSang Paik wrote:
> Oh, I see. Thank you for kind information. Many things are clear now.
>
> One more question. sorry. Could you explain more about what will be
> mainly changed (or planned to be changed) from tptp choreography to B2J?
> Just removing dependency of other tptp codes from choreography engine,
> or what what else will be the major goal of changes?
>
> Best Regards,
> *+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+
> Paik, YoungSang (Keanu)
> Advanced Mobile Solution Team in Ubiquitous Computing Lab (UCL)
> IBM, Korea
>
> Tel: (822)3781-7509, (8211)898-7509 Email: yspaik@kr.ibm.com
> Address : The MMAA Bldg 467-12 Dogok-dong. Gangnam-gu, Seoul, Korea
>
> Inactive hide details for Antony Miguel
> <antony.miguel@scapatech.com>Antony Miguel <antony.miguel@scapatech.com>
>
>
> *Antony Miguel <antony.miguel@scapatech.com>*
> Sent by: stp-newsgroup-bounces@eclipse.org
>
> 2006-02-07 오전 03:21
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> [stp-newsgroup] Re: Qs on b2j
>
>
>
>
> Hi Keanu,
>
> B2J is being migrated from TPTP but during it's migration it will
> undergo some changes to shift the focus of the project from TPTP to the
> goals of B2J.
>
> The old part of the TPTP website is probably the best place to get
> information about what code currently exists:
>
> http://www.eclipse.org/tptp/platform/documents/design/choreo graphy_html/index.html
>
> To get a feel for where we are going with it and how it will turn into
> B2J you might want to take a look in particular at the old TPTP
> choreography architecture document:
>
> http://www.eclipse.org/tptp/platform/documents/design/choreo graphy_html/engine/architecture.html
>
> The key bit is the 'replacable java engine implementation' part of the
> 'Choreography Engine' in the second diagram on the page.
>
> The code is currently available under the TPTP
> org.eclipse.tptp.choreography plugin but we hope to make it available
> soon in STP CVS.
>
>
> thanks
>
> Antony
>
>
> Keanu, Paik wrote:
> > I am interested in b2j subproject of STP.
> > I have several questions about it.
> >
> > I am curious about what it is in more detail.
> > Is it runtime processing? or offline code generation?
> >
> > Can I get some documents about it? There's no available documentation
> > for programmers.
> > Has the project been migrated from tptp? If it has, can I see the older
> > version of b2j on the tptp?
> > Is the code available, if the code is immature?
> >
> > Thank you for answer in advance.
> >
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