| Very nice! I just looked roughly over it but liked it so far.
However, we're not allowed to link to the distros in that way. It must be clear for everyone that these downloads are not from eclipse.org. So it should be a link to xtext.itemis.com including a description. The same for the Antlr generator. We can change that tomorrow.
Thanks! Sven On Jun 11, 2009, at 8:37 PM, Heiko Behrens wrote: Hey Guys,
I have commited a first version of the new Xtext-Website ( http://www.eclipse.org/Xtext). Its landing page is basically the migration of a flyer we have produced recently. It is still hard to find a suitable feature list and the screencast is not ready, yet. Your input is welcome (see below). For this first working version these were my priorities:
a) it's up and running b) link downloadable distro c) no wrong information or broken links d) acceptable content
Could you please double-check if we could go with this version? I would then promoted the website via different channels (e.g. redirect xtext.org, put links from the wiki, etc.). I will wait with this till Friday night. As always, your feedback is welcome.
Regards, Heiko Begin forwarded message: Date: 15. Mai 2009 11:20:23 MESZ Subject: Re: [xtext-dev] Xtext Website
Thank you for your feedback again. I will try to include your ideas and recommendations where possible. So far, we will go with something similar to nova3. Nevertheless, I need some help, still. One key aspect of every landing page presented was the feature list. What does make Xtext a great framework/tool? What are the real killers when working with it? I would be glad if each of you could name his favorite Xtext topics so I could make such a list out of it. Examples of such items could be: * simple grammar language * inferred meta model/binding of an existing mm * code completion * customizable outline view * true EMF resource * configurable with google guice * ready-to-use code generation * strong community (oAW) Feel free to write more than some key words. I will distill these items and combine your ideas to come up with a reasonable short list in the end. Thank you in advance, Heiko On 14.05.2009, at 15:20, Heiko Behrens wrote: Hey Guys,
I have published three design drafts at
http://www.eclipse.org/Xtext/draft090514/20.html
http://www.eclipse.org/Xtext/draft090514/nova1.html
http://www.eclipse.org/Xtext/draft090514/nova3.html
Where the 2.0-Approach (20.html) tries to establish an "individual look" compared to the other Eclipse citizens the other designs rely on the recent Eclipse theme "Nova". Content-wise all three drafts are comparable apart from the fact that nova3 brings a short introduction screencast into play.
Please feel free to comment on these.
Cheers,
Heiko
On 12.05.2009, at 10:50, Heiko Behrens wrote:
Hey Folks,
within the next weeks we want to overhaul the users' first impression of Xtext. This does not only affect the UI (e.g. Wizards) or a ready-to-use distro but public material such as documentation and the website as well. So far, only the wiki page at http://wiki.eclipse.org/Xtext informs the first-time user about Xtext's capabilities. To improve this situation I want to establish a face-lifted web appearance of Xtext that resides at http://www.eclipse.org/Xtext. If have already discussed this topic with some of you and clarified some technical issues with the webmasters of eclipse.org. We will be able to provide a custom design, present off-site links to the oAW Distribution and do other fancy (php-based) stuff as well if we want to.
If have collected a few items that outline this effort and I would highly appreciate feedback.
First step: A Landing page
• Appealing Look
• Short description about Xtext in general
• (Screenshot / Diagram ?)
• Easy to find download link
• Documentation
• Professional Support (non annoying)
• Key Features
• Note for irritated Xtext oAW users
• Status (latest commit, twitter, blog headlines) to appear fresh
Second, a restructured web page the conforms to these ideas
• Landing Page (see above)
• Documentation
• online version of documentation
• tutorials (n minute)
• screencasts
• DSL examples
• other resources (such as articles or noteworthy blog posts)
• Testimonials or "Users that are impressed by Xtext"
• Support
• Newsgroup
• Bugzilla
• Off-Link to "Professional Support"
• Contribute / Developer
• Team (People behind the scenes, short bio?)
• Wiki
• JavaDoc, JUnit-Reports
• Sources
• Metrics
Please feel free to comment this list. In the next days I will send around some design documents to feed the discussion.
@itemis kiel: Tomorrow morning I will be at the office. How about a short discussion based on the current designs?
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