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RE: [wtp-pmc] WTP PMC status call agenda for Tuesday, June 13th, 2006

Addendum: committer list cleanup discussion as one of our process issues. See attached thread.

 

From: wtp-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:wtp-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tim Wagner
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 6:21 AM
To: WTP PMC communications (including coordination, announcements, and Group discussions)
Subject: [wtp-pmc] WTP PMC status call agenda for Tuesday, June 13th, 2006

 

Call info:

  • Tollfree in the US: 866-214-3176
  • Alternate: 404-827-9098
  • Access code: 8870689#

Call Time: 7am PDT

 

Agenda:

  • Community review [Lawrence]
  • Process issues and scheduling [Tim]
    • JSF and Dali internal review debrief.
    • External (EMO) release review for Dali and JSF scheduled for Wednesday, June 21st, 8am PDT
  • Requirements [Jochen]
  • 1.0.3 and 1.5/Callisto status [David]
    • Are we ready to post a 1.0.3 end date?
    • Usual 1.5 triage at noon, so that component leads can attend for discussion
  • Architecture [David]
  • JSF Status [Raghu]
  • Dali/JPA Status [Neil]
  • ATF Status [Craig]
  • Other discussion topics

 

From: wtp-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of Mike Milinkovich [mike.milinkovich@xxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 5:22 AM
To: 'WTP PMC communications (including coordination, announcements, and Group discussions)'
Subject: RE: [wtp-pmc] item for tomorrow's PMC call

Attachments: ATT6391773.txt
This sounds about right to me. We are quite interested in seeing the list of inactive committers dealt with in a nice way. So this sounds good.

From: wtp-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:wtp-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David M Williams
Sent: June 13, 2006 2:02 AM
To: WTP PMC communications (including coordination, announcements, and Group discussions)
Subject: Re: [wtp-pmc] item for tomorrow's PMC call


I've wondered about this too Lawrence ... and when the timing would be right. I can tell you what I know, from chats at council meetings.

The PMC can request someone be removed from the committer list, but normally only for "a good reason" (which is not well specified).
No one has ever, so far :) been removed for "making trouble".
In most cases of inactivity due to job-changes, etc., the informal process is to expect the committer to be responsible enough
to request themselves to be removed (e.g. via e-mail) so there's a good traceable reason for the removal and reassurance to the
EMO that we were not removing folks "willy nilly".

So, I'd say, the first step is to write a friendly letter to those that are inactive, asking if they were still interested in being a committer,
how much we could use help or appreciate their past help, etc., but that if due to job change or other reasons they can not be a committer, that
they send an e-mail to PMC stating that they no longer plan to be a committer.

If it turns out we can not contact someone, or never hear from them, I'd say about a year of inactivity (perhaps "one major release"?)
is enough to easily request their removal for security reasons, without being in danger of "accidentally" removing
someone too soon, against their wishes. My thought is this would be a post 1.5 work item.

Just my thoughts, others opinions welcome.

David




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06/13/2006 12:53 AM

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I'd like to add an item to tomorrow's PMC call.

There are several WTP committers no longer working on the project. I'd like the PMC to discuss whether a process should be created to deal with past committers. Specifically, should past committers retain commit access? If not, at what point should their commit access be revoked?

Admittedly, I don't know if there is an Eclipse process in place for dealing with past committers. I haven't been able to find any documentation on this topic and am interested in any pointers anyone else may have.

Thanks,

Lawrence Mandel

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IBM Rational Software
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