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| Re: [udig-devel] questions about uDig 1.0 | 
But on to more important things - http://udig.refractions.net/downloads/ 
contains the files you are looking for:
- http://udig.refractions.net/downloads/udig0.8.RC1.exe is especially 
nice (even though it is only a release candidate)
- http://udig.refractions.net/downloads/uDig0.7.0.exe is the last stable 
release
Thank you. It was a very easy, smooth installation (I was afraid I'd 
have to install a couple of components separately). I spent an hour or 
two playing with it. I'd be happy to provide feedback now and in the 
future, but I suspect this list is not the best venue. Let me know how I 
can help.
While I ran into a ton of error messages and things that didn't respond 
properly, the application never, ever crashed!
- What minimum hardware requirements do you anticipate? I know, that's 
a fuzzy question and you're not there yet. Can you guesstimate how it 
will compare with ArcMap 9.0?
I don't have the hardware requirements for ArcMap on hand, perhaps you 
can share them. We have paid special attention to memory use in 
constructing uDig (so we can scale to larger data sets than JUMP for 
instance). Being a client application I would be more concerned with 
bandwidth then memory size.
For reference I test on a Athalon 1.7, during our testing on Friday the 
uDig process was using 150 megs of ram.  The only time I have found uDig 
to be slow was a old laptop with 16 megs of shared video ram, switching 
to only Web Map Server layers fixed this the performance problem.
Thanks. I shouldn't have used such formal language. I just want to hear 
opinions about how it might work with less than stellar hardware. BTW, I 
tested it on a Pentium III, about 1GHz, 512MB RAM, Win2000, with other 
software running. It never felt slow, it simply became buggier and less 
functional over time.
- I understand you'll be delivering a French localization. Is there 
any talk of a Spanish one??
Actually there has been some interest, we are going to focus on 
internationalization in March. Being an open source project we welcome 
collaboration.
Great! I've never done internationalizations. IF we decide to go with 
uDig, I'll discuss this with my partners. I suspect the donors (a 
foreign aid agency) won't fund it directly, but I can bring it up to GIS 
groups in Nicaragua.
- Are there plans to allow customization/scripting via languages more 
accessible than Java? Say, Python.
There has been talk of this, the use of the Groovy language is one of 
the best features of JUMP.  My focus has been on making a strong, clear 
object model. This would support the use of the whichever scripting 
language to community would care to implement.   (I know If I get some 
volunteer time I would work with Groovy myself, perhaps with a JUMP 
facade to allow simple scripts to inter operate).
I'd never heard of Groovy, but it sounds intriguing. Glad to hear the 
team is thinking about this issue.
I would like to be able to set up our project with open source 
software, but not at the expense of usability and ability to easily 
customize the software.
This is a goal we all share, I trust you have already located PostGIS, 
MapServer, GeoServer and so on. You may be able to ask Paul Ramsey for 
some papers on getting these to work together.  Chris Holmes (the 
GeoServer lead) has started up an email list to bring some of the OGC 
based Services together. Things like a common configuration file fir 
MapServer and GeoServer have been discussed.
Yeah. I already use MapServer. I've subscribed to the PostGIS list for 
about two years and read much about it, though I haven't had the chance 
to use it (i've used PostgreSQL). And I subscribe to the OpenSDI list. 
All exciting stuff.
In short this is a very exciting time for open source GIS, or even just 
standards based GIS.
Agreed. And thanks for your replies!
-Emilio