Thanks Wayne, I know. Just waiting to see Brian's response or a timeout to get triggered. ;)
Doug.
From: tools-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [tools-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] on behalf of Wayne Beaton [wayne.beaton@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
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Cc: Jean-Francois Maury; Brian Payton; DTP development mailing list
Subject: Re: [tools-pmc] DTP committer election failed: only 1 out of 3 committers voted.
FWIW, when a PMC declares a project dysfunctional, they get some pretty broad powers to make whatever changes they'd like to the project team.
The PMC can decide to retire or appoint specific committers or project leads. It's a power that should be used rarely as it circumvents the community process.
So... you don't actually have to retire any committers, or appoint Nick as an interim custodian (you can just appoint Nick's candidate if that makes sense to you). You should also appoint that candidate as a committer while you're at it (one role does
not imply the other).
HTH,
Wayne
Brian,
I'm trying to elect a colleague into the DataTools project so I can pass on some responsibility to him, as my time to maintain DTP is becoming increasingly stretched thin and his core function depends on DTP continuing to work (mine no longer does).
I submitted an election for Jeff (Jean-Francois) Maury last week, but no one other than myself voted. There are supposedly only 2 active committers in DTP right now (other than myself), but I don't see any commits since 2015 or 2016, suggesting that neither
yourself or Yulin are still active.
Could you resubmit the nomination? Or would you like me to take over as project lead?
Thanks in advance,
Nick Boldt
Hey, Tools PMC:
I tried to elect a colleague into the DTP project (since he's helping me maintain it) and the other 2 remaining committers on the DTP project failed to vote +1, -1, or 0.
Can you declare the project dysfunctional? I can submit the nomination again if you'd like them to have a second chance to respond.
Did you try to contact the project lead? Please do so and add the PMC list on CC. If we get not reply in 2 weeks and no one else objects on the list I propose that we(the PMC) ask foundation to make you project lead so you can handle retiring inactive
people, rerun voting and do the general handling of the project.
Regards,
Alex
No. I cannot. The rules require that, in the case of a project with three or fewer committers, that all committers vote.
There are two workarounds:
- Have the project lead retire those committers and rerun the election; or
- Have the PMC declare the project dysfunctional and request that add/remove committers and project leads.
I'm thinking that we might be leaning towards the later.
Note that Project Lead and Committer are two separate roles. While it generally makes little sense for somebody to be a Project Lead but not a Committer, this is precedent. If you want them to have both roles, they'll need to be elected (or appointed by
the PMC if we go the dysfunctional route) to both.
I've cleaned up the bogus PMC relationships. They should disappear from the "who" page shortly.
Wayne
DTP committer election failed because only 1 of the 3 current committers voted (me).
Can you make some magic happen so he's voted in and the non-voting non-active people are not required to vote in future?
Thanks,
Nick
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