Re: [tools-pmc] Requesting exception for patch feature shipped by Object

[Chris Aniszczyk <caniszczyk@xxxxxxxxx>]

Here are my two cents:

I'm fine with OT forking JDT as they have a use case for it. We should
grant them an exemption for this time around with the EXPECTATION that
they would work with the JDT to fix any issues by the next release
(Stephan has even become a JDT committer which is great). This can
serve as motivation for projects to fix issues as they wouldn't be
allowed on the train next time around.

In terms of p2, to ensure that no one installs the JDT "fork" by
accident... we would explicitly hide the feature when we organize the
content (this is relatively easy to do).

On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 11:33 AM, Ian Bull <irbull@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> I'm also curious as to what would happen if two people wanted to patch the
> same project? Or, if I installed the OT (and thus the patched JDT came
> along), and then JDT released a critical fix of their own? Would that patch
> be applied?
> cheers,
> ian
>
> On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 9:28 AM, Doug Schaefer <cdtdoug@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>> I think it's just too easy to get the patched version without users
>> knowing about it. That's why I firmly believe the owners of the
>> org.eclipse.jdt namespace need to approve any patches into that
>> namespace that come on the train.
>>
>> Doug.
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 11:46 AM, Jeff McAffer <jeff@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> wrote:
>> > My 2c.  We must be sure that when someone goes to the train repo and
>> > says (directly or indirectly) "I want JDT", they get the unpatched JDT.  If
>> > they choose (directly or indirectly) to install OT and OT needs a patch,
>> > great, but they should not get it "for free".
>> >
>> > If there are bugs in p2/b3/... that prevent the above from being true
>> > then they need to be fixed or the train repos must contain patches from the
>> > JDT team (in this case) that they intend all users to have.
>> >
>> > Jeff
>> > On 2010-11-16, at 2:34 PM, Stephan Herrmann wrote:
>> >
>> >> Dear Tools PMC,
>> >> (Cc: our Mentors)
>> >>
>> >> Bug 330288 [1], which is actually a technical bug in the b3 aggregator
>> >> has triggered a discussion in bug 330312 [2], which may or may not
>> >> significantly influence the future of the Object Teams project.
>> >>
>> >> I've actively tried to trigger this discussion for a long time and I
>> >> appreciate
>> >> that it is happening now.
>> >> However, if the rules proposed by Gunnar will be enforced in the near
>> >> future, perhaps as a pre-requisiste for participating in the release
>> >> train,
>> >> this would potentially rule out our (Object Teams) participation in the
>> >> train.
>> >>
>> >> Therefor, and in order to keep special case considerations out off that
>> >> discussion, I precautionarily request an exception from those future
>> >> rules.
>> >> If relevant I will ask you (the Tools PMC) to forward this request to
>> >> the
>> >> Planning Council.
>> >>
>> >> I believe I have sufficient arguments for justifying this exception.
>> >> Please let me know, where and how I should communicate these arguments.
>> >>
>> >> Thanks for considering,
>> >> Stephan
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> [1] https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=330288
>> >>     Indigo repository does not include all the versions of jdt.core
>> >>
>> >> [2] https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=330312
>> >>     Rules for project patches in the train
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