| [technology-pmc] RE: [alf-dev] Is ALF alive? |
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Bjorn,
ALF is alive, and being developed, refined, and
used. I have to question the CVS statistics, as committers Tim Buss
and George Stanchev in particular have made significant changes to the code in
the Event Manager and all the SSO components over the last 6 months. Please see:
http://dash.eclipse.org/dash/commits/web-app/summary.cgi?company=y&month=x&project=technology.alf
A spot check does show that the last update for some files was indeed
an insignificant update of the date of the copyright notice,
although meaningful code changes to many files occurred before and after
that.
I agree that recently we have not leveraged the mailing
list and newsgroups to make the activity as transparent as they should be,
though we have openly presented the ALF status and activity at Eclipse community
forums, such as the 3 talks I gave at EclipseCon 2008. We clearly should
have been better communicating the developments using these
mechanisms.
An ongoing challenge for the project has
been increasing the diversity of the community, which we recognized has the
major hurdle to exit incubation. While we have been refining the code, we
have attempted to grow the user community by embedding ALF in commercial
products, thereby increasing the number of users of ALF.
I will contact you to set up a meeting.
Regards,
Brian
Brian Carroll | Eclipse ALF Project Lead | Serena Fellow
(O) (503) 617-2436 (C) (503) 318-2017
From: alf-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:alf-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bjorn Freeman-Benson Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 11:57 AM To: technology-pmc; alf-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [alf-dev] Is ALF alive? ALF Team Members, We, the Technology PMC, notice that ALF doesn't look like a very alive project. The CVS has some commits, but they appear to be almost entirely changing the copyright date and build files. The mailing list http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/alf-dev/ shows no activity since December and even then it was 2-5 messages a month, most saying "no meeting today". The newsgroup http://dev.eclipse.org/newslists/news.eclipse.technology.alf/ shows even less activity. Etc. In summary, we believe that the ALF project is dead, or at best, a code dump without a committer community, an adopter community, or a user community. We invite the ALF project team to meet with the Technology PMC to explain why, in spite of the lack of evidence, this project is not dead. If we do not hear from the team by the end of July, we will understand that the project is inactive and will close it down and archive it. Bjorn Freeman-Benson for the Technology PMC --
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