Hi guys
Please find references the related WSDLs within the text below.
Regards,
Marc D.
Le 14/02/2013 13:16, Marc.Gille@xxxxxxxxxxx a écrit :
>
> I guess the sequence would be
>
> · Start from Mangrove (Adrian)
> · Continue in the BPMN2 Editor (Bob)
> · Expose Web Services to be consumed in the process
(Marc D.)
> · Take over Bob’s model into Stardust add Web
Service, add more integration, deploy and show Runtime (Marc G.)
>
> I have put this on the page Adrian created.
>
> Marc D. did you sent anything about the semantics of you WS?
Le 14/02/2013 12:14, Marc Dutoo a écrit :
Hi guys
Happy to know it helps !
Here's a description of the actual, original use case.
Please have a look, and help decide which parts should be made
in how many BPMN(s). It can be changed, but *if you want to
reuse applications* within limits.
(from https://github.com/easysoa/EasySOA/wiki/Axxx-use-case
)
NAHV (National Agency for Holiday Vouchers) sells to employees
entreprise-sponsored holiday vouchers. AXXX uses the benefits to
fulfill its social misssion as a public service, by allowing
underpriviledged people to go on holidays, and first of all
through its flagship APV (Holiday Project Help) program.
This is done by two separate departments (respectively, DCV and
DPS) with each their own IT. At first, DPS worked mainly with
paper and Excel forms, but DPS IT is now going towards providing
complete solutions to DPS business employees within a fully
architectured information system. This entails (subcontracted)
development of dedicated business applications, as well as
integrating them together and above all with DCV IT data and
applications, all according to SOA principles.
Here are the steps of getting a new a new social partner in the
APV program :
* in NAHV DCV department, a social partner manager convinces a
social partner (inventing a few ones : Homelessness Charity,
Rehabilitation Service, Church Unemployment Trust) to get in
NAHV's APV (Holiday Project Help) social help program
* the social partner manager goes in the social partner
management CRM application "Pivotal" (or it could be a BPM
solution frontend ??) and tells it about that
* this triggers an orchestration (implemented in Talend ESB,
thought could be within a BPMN)
through creerPrecompte of
https://github.com/easysoa/EasySOA-Incubation/blob/master/easysoa-samples/easysoa-samples-axxx/axxx-dps-apv/axxx-dps-apv-core/src/main/resources/api/PrecomptePartenaireService.wsdl
* that 1. checks known
administrative information about said social partner, using the
online Uniserv checkAddress service
* 2. sends it to the "APV" application that toolifies the APV
program
through
https://github.com/easysoa/EasySOA-Incubation/blob/master/easysoa-samples/easysoa-samples-axxx/axxx-dps-apv/axxx-dps-apv-core/src/main/resources/api/PrecomptePartenaireService.wsdl
* the APV application creates a
"pre-account" (account stub ?) for the social partner
* APV managers fill this account stub with : number of people
that the social partner anticipate to send on holidays, amount
of money that is required for that, finally a signed contract
between bith parties
* APV manager approves the transformation to a full fledged
account
now the social partner is able to use the APV application to
send underpriviledged people on holidays :
* he creates a new "holiday project" with indicative information
(where, when)
* he fills it with : total number of people & amount of
money used
* he approves / validates / publishes it
* which locks it, computes global aggregegate amounts (people,
money)
* and sends these global key indicators to the Pivotal
application so it will be displayed to the social partner
manager in its dashboard
through Information_APV of
https://github.com/easysoa/EasySOA-Incubation/blob/master/easysoa-samples/easysoa-samples-axxx/axxx-dcv-pivotal/src/main/resources/api/ContactSvc.asmx.wsdl
Regards,
Marc
Le 14/02/2013 10:23, Mos, Adrian a écrit :
Hi guys,
So I think
it’s great we are beginning to think about the demo and so
on, this should give us some time to actually achieve
something integrated. What I could show is:
-
Starting from a domain-specific
representation of the business process, Mangrove should
generate a first BPMN stub. This could contain a simple
BPMN diagram as well as perhaps the web services that
correspond to the domain concepts, associated to their
appropriate activities. Of course this BPMN diagram would
then be enriched with the BPMN editor, before being
deployed.
-
The mangrove transformation could
also generate SCA from this. Now this may not be used for
full deployment but we can use this to showcase the fact
that we can add architectural elements in case we are not
happy with simple WS invocation.
It would be
great If we can come up with a couple of BPMN diagrams
that we can discuss on, in order to move all this forward.
I created this page:
http://wiki.eclipse.org/Mangrove/ECon2013Demo
we can use it
as a discussion page and for sharing of up-to-date
diagrams etc. I put it under the Mangrove wiki but if you
think it’s more appropriate to put it under a SOA wiki we
can always create one!
Marc D, since
you have the web services for the social-help use-case,
can you put together a first draft of a simple BPMN
diagram that shows what can be achieved in such a
use-case?
Cheers,
Adrian.
Social help is
obviously a far better demo case than financial systems …
J Happy to go with that.
What could be a
relevant business process calling into this web services?
Marc
Thanks, Bob. That
comes timely. I was going to send a similar request.
Suggestions:
·
We need an
application domain for our sample scenario. Ideas?
Financial systems? Logistics? Retail? Something fancier?
·
You and I start
exchanging sample BPMN models for that domain.
·
Model should contain
steps being supposed to invoke Web Services. Need WSDL.
·
Marc D. to prepare
exposing this Web Service.
·
Anything Andrian can
add on a DL falvour?
Marc
From: Bob Brodt [mailto:bbrodt@xxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Dienstag, 12. Februar 2013 19:58
To: SOA PMC mailing list
Cc: Adrian Mos; Marc Dutoo; Gille, Marc
Subject: Re: [soa-pmc] submission to ECON?
Hi all,
I just wanted to catch up with everyone and get a
(somewhat) early start on preparing for the SOA
Symposium. I'm sure at some point we'll need to get
serious and make sure we're all reading from the same
script, but I just wanted to toss around some ideas
sooner rather than later.
Anyone have any suggestions or ideas?
Cheers!
Bob
Hi guys
I guess we all got the news already, but just to say
it, the Eclipse Con program is out and the SOA
Symposium is in, so we're getting a little bit
closer to the "beer part" ;)
Regards,
Marc
http://eclipsecon.org/2013/program/session-schedule/tutorials
Le 13/12/2012 08:53, Marc.Gille@xxxxxxxxxxx a
écrit :
Bob,
find attached my
slide deck I used at EclipseCon Europe 2012. One of
the biggest issues there was, that our presentations
were not really connected. This is what we intend to
address in Boston.
Regarding
Stardust:
· If you have build
issues, please post them in the forum. We may help.
· Stardust’s
Eclipse Modeler creates indeed XPDL (and the engine
consumes it), but this modeler is on sunset – we may
want to use yours as indicated on the Stardust HP.
We are focusing on our Browser Modeler (also part of
the Stardust code base and called Lightdust) which
is working on BPMN and XPDL. For BPMN we are using
the Eclipse BPMN2 Metamodel underneath as I think
you do. Hence, this should work smoothly (although I
agree that we should test at the earliest). We will
be using the Browser Modeler in Boston. We can
exchange sample models to check compatibility
immediately.
Happy to hop on a
conf call any time next week.
Marc
Hi Marc,
Not sure if this has been asked before, but was
the EclipseCon Europe presentation recorded, or is
there a slide deck available? I would be
interested in seeing the "show" in its entirety.
I've started looking seriously at Stardust and am
currently running into some build issues, but hope
to have those resolved soon. What worries me,
though, is that the Process Model editor appears
to only handle XPDL. It was my understanding that
BPMN2 was supported also - am I missing something?
When you have some spare time, maybe we could do a
conference call and discuss the eclipsecon 2013
presentation. I'd like to get started on preparing
something sooner rather than later...just in case
;)
Cheers!
Bob
Great.
Thanks, Bob. May be alternatively to “open the
process model alternatively with the BPMN2
modeler”, we should open subsequently with both
editors to show that both may modified and be
used by their respective audiences without
breaking things. Should not be a biggy as we
both work on the same metamodel implementation.
An nothing is wrong with a little regression
test …
Marc
OK, done. Thanks Marc & Marc :)
Bob, just added you to the
submission.
I suggest you insert a line saying that, in
parallel to modeling the process in Stardust
modeler in Orion, you can benefit of the
BPMN2 standard to view and edit it in
Eclipse thanks to the BPMN2 editor...
Regards,
Marc
Le 19/11/2012 20:32, Bob Brodt a écrit :
OK, that sounds good to me
(especially the "beers" part - I can
certainly handle that ;)
Can you list me as one of the speakers for
the current SOA-Track session and just let
me know about how much presentation time
I'll have? Is this something we can work
out later (maybe in tomorrow's PMC call?)
So, I don't think I'll be
able to put something together for the
editor by today's deadline, but I could
certainly ride your coattails if you'll
let me ;)
[marc.gille]
Coattail right away.
I'll have much more free
time over the Christmas holidays to
devote to a presentation - what kind of
integration/tutorial were you thinking
about Marc?
[marc.gille]
Most importantly all tools to be
used in an integrated fashion. At
least your modeler and Stardust (and
its Browser Modeler) should work
seamlessly as we are both using
BPMN2 metamodel.
Some
Web Service + UI Mashup, deploy,
run, beers.
That
was my thinking.
Cheers!
Bob
Gents,
this is what I have
submitted:
http://www.eclipsecon.org/2013/sessions/soa-track
Happy to adjust (or you
do). Bob, any chance that you could
join the mix?
Marc
Great, so we need to make
a submission, deadline is today :).
Can somebody (Marc or Marc) do this,
and put us three as authors? I'm
traveling and don't have a laptop...
Adrian.
Sent from my iPhone.
Hi Adrian, Marc
The other Marc (I) is also
interested, as I said in my email
replying to Marc's "Attendees SOA
Track" email. I'd submit updates
to my ECE talks, with new stuff
& demos since EasySOA will
have ended by then.
Regards,
Marc
Le 16/11/2012 18:16, Mos, Adrian a
écrit :
Hi Marc,
So far it seems we are
the only ones interested in
proposing a session. It would be
great if you could put a
submission in, you can add me as a
co-author. I suggest keeping it
simple for now, basically just
saying that following our
successful SOA Symposium in ECON
EU, we are planning to provide a
more focused tutorial, focused on
practical demos, to keep the
momentum going. There are many
things happening in this space and
we can certainly show interesting
things in Boston. One idea is to
also have a talk accepted, like
the Modelling Symposium, with
lightning talks from various
projects:
http://www.eclipsecon.org/2013/sessions/modelling-symposium
I will be away from
Sunday for a week but I can keep
in touch by email.
Cheers,
Adrian.
I also think we
should. But I cannot work on
anything before tomorrow
afternoon. Happy to draft sth
after.
Marc
Hi Guys,
the submission deadline
to ECON 2013 is Monday. Are we
going to propose a follow-up
session to our SOA Symposium? I
think we should… What are your
thoughts?
Adrian.
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