Re: [smarthome-dev] project members

[Kai Kreuzer <kai@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi Markus,

I can very much understand your frustration and I am often feeling the same way - the committer status comes with certain duties and obligations and when people stop (or never start?) fulfilling them, it feels unfair towards the other that do.

Nonetheless, I agree with you that nobody should be blamed here; it is very natural that priorities of people change and that personal involvement in open source projects can heavily vary over time.
I think what we as a project should do is to take this as a fact and to define our own process how to deal with that. My suggestion would be to periodically discuss the situation here on the list (e.g. about once a year) and check if any committers have lost interest and should be retired from the project - while giving them a chance to veto here.

Looking at the activities over the past year, I would see Thomas and Marin to be candidates for retirement as there wasn’t any visible activity throughout that period (from what I have observed). If there is no veto from any committer, I would suggest to retire them by the end of next week (Sept 9).

The other side is that we should try to attract more people that are willing to actively (and not just „on paper“) maintain the project. This isn’t an easy task, but I think as the community grows, we should be able to find new committers along the way.

Best regards,
Kai


> On 29 Aug 2016, at 18:29, Markus Rathgeb <maggu2810@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> Hello guys,
> 
> this mail is addressed to the Eclipse SmartHome team members (PMC + committers).
> 
> The time I has been elected to get a Eclipse SmartHome committer I has
> been very indecisively if I have the time to suffer all the needs for
> a committer.
> I read the documentations about the duties of a committer etc.
> After some time I said thanks for the trust and accepted the nomination.
> I spend a lot of spare time for the project, so I am very frustrated
> about situation that persist now for a long time.
> 
> Does every committer feel happy with the time and work he spend for the project?
> 
> Let's collect an excerpt from "4.7 Committers and Contributors"
> (https://www.eclipse.org/projects/dev_process/development_process.php#4_7_Committers_and_Contributors
> )
> * Committers ... are expected to influence the project's development.
> * Active participation in the user communication channels and the
> appropriate developer mailing lists is a responsibility of all
> committers, and is critical to the success of the project.
> * Committers are required to monitor and contribute to the user
> communication channels.
> * Committers are required to monitor the mailing lists associated with
> the project.
> * Committers are responsible for proactively reporting problems in the
> bug tracking system, and annotating problem reports with status
> information, explanations, clarifications, or requests for more
> information from the submitter.
> * Committers are responsible for updating problem reports when they
> have done work related to the problem.
> 
> I don't want to blame anybode, I am very frustrated at the moment and
> so I will ask about your oppinion.
> How do you want to proceed / how should we proceed.
> 
> Best regards,
> Markus
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