Re: [science-iwg] Fwd: Re: [triquetrum] Dual License Triquetrum under EP

[Christopher Brooks <cxh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Thanks, I'll follow up to epl-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxx tomorrow after people have had a chance to subscribe.

The issue is University of California-wide, not just UC Berkeley.  It came up recently because we received proposed guidelines from the University of California Office of the President (UCOP) about open source contributions to projects with patent clauses like EPL, APL and GPLv3.  The feedback we gave them was that the workaround is Individual Contributor Agreements and that the  Educational Community License, Version 2.0 (ECL-2.0) had been used in the past.  I also suggested that they not use open source software for their websites or OS's (Mac OS X includes Apache-licensed code). :-)

Previously, the issue came up in late 2015 when I wanted Berkeley to join the Eclipse Foundation.  I did not raise this issue with the Eclipse Foundation because it seemed unlikely to be promptly resolved.

I agree that changing the license is probably out of scope.

_Christopher

On 2/16/16 12:35 PM, Mike Milinkovich wrote:

On 2/16/2016 2:35 PM, Erwin de Ley wrote:

From the analysis by Christopher below, it would seem that a rather small addition/modification in the standard EPL could enable academic/research institutions to actively participate in Eclipse open-source projects. Whereas the current EPL patent clause seems to prohibit that.

Changing open source license terms is an extremely time-consuming and difficult thing to do. However, for those who are interested in such things there are on-going (but currently dormant) discussions about revising the EPL at epl-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxx

Personally I don't understand such legal details, but the issue encountered for UC Berkeley is probably widely applicable to many more US institutions (and European ones as well I guess). And it would seem that the Science IWG is specifically impacted by this as we're targeting research/academic instutions a.o.

UC Berkley is the first institution in 12 years to raise these concerns. I would not rush to any assumptions about their conclusions.

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