Hi Matt, 
     
    that are good news. Is it already available as a GitHub project? 
     
     
    Best, 
    Philip 
     
    
    
      
      
      
      
        Philip, 
          
        There
            has been some prospecting work at our end on the pipelining
            stuff. This might be a starting point for a future design.
            The live pipeline approach seems to be useful for tomography
            and diffraction images, so we have gone quite far with the
            implementation but it is not a fete-a-complis.
             
          
        Sincerely, 
          
        Matt 
          
          
        
          From: Jay Jay Billings
              [mailto:jayjaybillings@xxxxxxxxx]
               
              Sent: 16 August 2014 18:34 
              To: Science Industry Working Group 
              Subject: Re: [science-iwg] EclipseCon Unconference 
         
          
        It is only version 4. A lot of projects still use other
          versions and even in version 4 you can pass a flag to disable
          all version 4 features, so it is an interesting challenge.
           
        Jay 
        
          On Aug 16, 2014 1:00 PM, "Philip Wenig"
            <philip.wenig@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
            wrote: 
          
            Hi Jay, 
               
              that's funny to know. I didn't realized before that NetCDF
              is build on top of HDF5. The better for us :-). 
              Is it only NetCDF version 4 and higher or do the old
              libraries NetCDF 2.2.22 also rely on HDF5? 
               
               
              Cheers, 
              Philip 
               
               
            
              Am 16.08.2014 um 18:45 schrieb Jay
                Jay Billings: 
             
            
              
                Philip,  
                
                
                  Yes, NetCDF 4 is built on top of
                    HDF5. The projects are contemporaries. NetCDF was
                    started in 1989 at UCAR and HDF was started around
                    the same time at NCSA. 
                 
                
                
                  I don't have any contacts on the
                    NetCDF team, but Andrew might know someone. Andrew? 
                 
                
                
                  I agree that we should get people
                    to make projects at and join the Foundation as well
                    as the working group. However, in the science world
                    very few people are going to do that without a
                    tangible demonstration of the benefits and I think
                    that in general the bigger the project the more time
                    it will take for that to happen. So, while we are
                    working on that lofty goal, we should look into
                    getting these things into Orbit. 
                 
                
                
               
              
                  
                
                  On Sat, Aug 16, 2014 at 11:45 AM,
                    Philip Wenig <philip.wenig@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
                    wrote: 
                  
                    Hi
                      Jay, hi Torkild, all, 
                       
                      yep, it would be great having more plugins
                      available in the Eclipse Orbit universe :-). I
                      gave a short overview at the last EclipseCon in
                      France how to use/include 3rd party libraries (but
                      most of the people know how to do this): 
                      http://de.slideshare.net/PhilipWenig/eclipsecon-france-2014 
                       
                      From my opinion, we should find a way/strategy how
                      to contact projects and how to convince them to
                      join the Eclipse Foundation except of those who
                      are already part of another Foundation, e.g.
                      Apache Foundation. 
                       
                      @Jay 
                      Are the NetCDF libraries build on top of HDF5? As
                      far as I know, NetCDF is the predecessor of HDF.
                      Anyhow, it was a good step that they switched to a
                      MIT-style license: 
                      http://www.unidata.ucar.edu/blogs/developer/en/entry/new_license_for_netcdf_java 
                       
                      The better it would be if they would join the
                      Science Working Group and switch to EPL. Do you
                      have contact to people from the NetCDF team? 
                       
                       
                      Cheers, 
                      Philip 
                       
                       
                       
                    
                      Am 16.08.2014 um 17:12
                        schrieb Jay Jay Billings: 
                     
                    
                      
                        
                          Torkild, 
                          I think it would be very cool for those to
                            go into Eclipse Orbit.  
                          More generally, and this is a technical
                            discussion that made me think of getting a
                            forum, we should think about a larger,
                            cross-platform set of universal binary
                            builds of common scientific libraries that
                            we could get approved through Orbit. For
                            example, in addition to HDF5 we probably
                            need to pick up other I/O libraries like
                            netcdf and exodus II. Both of these are
                            built on top of HDF5 and have BSD licenses,
                            so why not just make it very convenient and
                            build them all together? Other libraries,
                            like math libraries could be added too. An
                            integrated software stack like this is a
                            highly coveted thing in many M&S circles
                            because it would greatly simplify deployment
                            of M&S codes for commercial customers.
                             
                          Of course this is a technically difficult
                            thing to do and comes with legal questions,
                            so an extended discussion would be best in a
                            forum or bug ticket. But... it would be
                            really cool to just pull down the
                            org.eclipse.science.native bundle(s) from
                            Orbit in a target!   
                          Jay 
                          
                            On Aug 16, 2014 10:09
                              AM, "Torkild Ulvøy Resheim" <torkildr@xxxxxxxxx>
                              wrote: 
                            Hi Philip, 
                               
                              This is a great idea! I'd like to
                              contribute if I can. It's up to my client
                              whether or not I can go to the
                              unconference. I've not heard with them yet
                              so I don't know. 
                               
                              One thing we've been working on that we
                              would like to contribute, if we can - are
                              neatly bundled HDF5 binaries for supported
                              platforms. Maybe this can go into Eclipse
                              Orbit. I suspect we're not alone in
                              packaging HDF5 so it would be great to get
                              some input on that. In any case I'll start
                              the CQ process very soon, so maybe we can
                              get a go-ahead before EclipseCon. 
                               
                              Best regards, 
                              Torkild 
                              > 16. aug. 2014 kl. 14.50 skrev Philip
                              Wenig <philip.wenig@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>: 
                              > 
                              > Hi folks, 
                              > 
                              > how about making a code session at
                              the upcoming EclipseCon unconference? 
                              > 
                              > I could set up a separate GitHub
                              project to start quickly within the next
                              weeks. The topic is the n-dimensional
                              editing pipeline we discussed in June, see
                              attached PDF files. We could then prepare
                              and commit ideas/implementations until the
                              unconference starts and go deeper in a
                              face-to-face meeting. 
                              > 
                              > 
                              > Best, 
                              > Philip 
                              > 
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