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Re: AW: [riena-dev] Ridgets
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Hi Christian,
Christian Campo wrote:
Scott,
Yes there are examples of using validations and conversions in
riena.example.client and I believe there are also JUnit tests in
riena.tests. However its quite early and we are currently have a
discussion about how to implement validations and conversions (as you
see in this other thread in riena-dev). So it might that a complete
implementation will take some more time.
OK, if you would point me to the relevant other thread in archive and
test/example code I'll check it out.
I am not sure that I am understanding the point of your questions
about in general.
We decided to introduce Ridgets into Riena for a number of reasons
that we already wrote about that we believe it supplies great value
for enterprise smart client applications. Some of the concepts are
already known in Eclipse like databinding (and we of course use them)
and there are others like Marker support that we couldnt find any
implementation in Eclipse.
Is your point that you see no value in Ridgets and wouldnt use it ?
Is your point that we shouldnt been allowed to have a concept like
Ridgets ?
Maybe you can help me to understand what you dont like about
Ridgets......
I don't dislike anything about them :). I'm just wondering what they
are and what they are for. That is, if they don't differ significantly
from something that's already available via Platform, I wouldn't tend to
use/depend upon it myself...because the extra code and dependencies does
have a cost...in distribution, code size, etc. WRT the ECF remote
services provider based upon Riena, for example, I'm going to decide
whether it's necessary (or desirable) to include any of the
org.eclipse.riena.ui.* plugins.
Further, Riena is (of course) free to have Ridgets or other concepts,
but my understanding of Riena (as articulated) isn't 'a useful set of
classes created by compeople', but rather 'a framework for transparent
remoting of OSGi services'. I feel its clearer (for the community,
adopters, and users) to have as clear project focus as possible...and
I'm just not (so far) seeing a clear connection between Ridgets and
Riena's stated primary purpose. This may be just me.
With easy access to databinding I meant nothing more than an easy
access to the existing databinding that is used interenally. But thats
not the only added value of Ridgets.
OK. Please LMK about the appropriate discussion thread and/or
test/example code locations.
Thanks,
Scott
