Re: [recommenders-dev] Draft of Recommenders Incubator Description

[Doug Wightman <douglasw@xxxxxxxxx>]

Those tutorials are pretty comprehensive. I did come across them,
although only a ways into development. Are they linked from
Recommenders? In terms of improving the tutorials, one idea would be
to provide really simple working examples, with detailed usage
instructions.

I'll also speak with Zi about this and see if he has any ideas.



On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 2:46 PM, Marcel Bruch <marcel.bruch@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Thanks Doug.
>
> comments/questions inline.
>
> On 19.06.2012, at 12:05, Doug Wightman wrote:
>
>> Thanks Marcel,
>>
>> Three ideas for decreasing barriers to entry come immediately to mind:
>> 1) Tutorials stepping through how to do many simple things - we often
>> thought to ourselves: there must be a bunch of people who know how to
>> to x, we're just not yet among them! I think IRC can help with this,
>> but often people will prefer tutorials. A set of say twelve covering
>> the basics from creating menu items and forms through integrating with
>> the editor would probably go a very long way (even though some of this
>> is covered on other sites).
>
> You mean we should provide more tutorials on how to extend Eclipse? I guess you know the Eclipse Articles or Lars' tutorial page (http://www.vogella.com/tutorials.html) and Eclipse FAQs (http://wiki.eclipse.org/The_Official_Eclipse_FAQs) ?
>
> Let me know if something is missing. Maybe we can convince Lars to provide another tutorial :)
>
>> 2) A note on the website indicating that we're looking for new
>> projects and how to contact us. If I'd known how easy the process of
>> joining was (not that it was easy, but it wasn't too hard, and
>> everyone was very welcoming), I would have reached out even sooner.
>
> Great point. I'll update the side bar to make this more visible to others after the wiki page is in a good shape.
>
>> 3) This one is not particularly plausible, but I've had it in the back
>> of my head for a while now, so I'll share it: if we're really keen on
>> enticing more people to create plugins, at some point it might make
>> sense to make the plugin creation process much easier. For example,
>> looking to Chrome/Firefox extensions as a model. Starting with no
>> prior extension programming experience, I recently wrote a relatively
>> complex Chrome extension over a weekend.
>
>
> This is more a general Eclipse thing, right? Or do you mean how to extend Recommenders?
>
> In the former case I think we can only provide the infrastructure for setting up the builds etc. Making Eclipse more or easier extensible is the job of the platform team. Regarding the extensibility of JDT, I'm quite happy with their support and also the discussions we had. Thanks JDT if anyone of you is listening ;) If you have particular suggestions, let me know.
>
> For the latter, we could spent little more time on documentation. We'll try to improve here...
>
>
>> I think you're already doing a fantastic job of spreading the word and
>> encouraging interest - these are very secondary to having someone like
>> you, vocal in the community and very approachable. I imagine that as
>> Recommenders get integrated into Eclipse awareness of the projects
>> will continue to increase and we'll have lots of additions to choose
>> between in the future.
>
> Live long and prosper, Code Recommenders ;) And thanks for the kind words.
>
> Marcel
>
>
>>
>>
>> Doug
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 3:01 AM, Marcel Bruch <bruch@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> Maybe it helps to provide the link...
>>>
>>> http://wiki.eclipse.org/Recommenders/Incubator
>>>
>>>
>>> On 19.06.2012, at 08:59, Marcel Bruch wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I've put together a fairly ad-hoc wiki page that describes what (I think) we
>>> are looking for at Recommenders and how we can support other universities or
>>> individuals to join with their innovative projects. Please skim the page and
>>> let me know if you agree with the contents or would like to
>>> add/refine/remove any part of the page.
>>>
>>> I'd also be curious to hear from Doug about potential improvements as
>>> Snipmatch is the first project that joined Recommenders and maybe it was
>>> little more complicated then expected. Maybe we can improve a few things
>>> here?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Marcel
>>>
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>>>  w www.eclipse.org/recommenders
>>>  tw www.twitter.com/marcelbruch
>>>
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