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    Thanks, Hannes for clarifying the possiblity to transfer an
      issue. That's good to know.
    
    Anyhow: I want to stress the user's perspective -- it's way to
      easy to get confused.
    I just wanted to file a bug report and thought I might give
      github issues a try. But where to go? I tried the github search
      with various combinations of "eclipse ui", "eclipse platform",
      etc. -- which all turned up search results of other people's
      projects, but never a relevant eclipse project at the top. So I
      ended up posting it to bugzilla ...
    Sorry, but from a "simple user's perspective" this is a great way
      to cut away the feedback loop to the users, make users give up,
      and turn away from eclipse ...
    There needs to be some guidance for the casual reporter of issues
      at an entry point that's easy to find.
      PLUS: I like bugzilla's list of probably related bugs -- so I
      don't file a duplicate too easily.
    (and maybe part of the confusion is that Eclipse is often used as
      synonym for "Eclipse IDE", not even realizing that "Eclipse IDE"
      should be the full name of the product, but understanding IDE
      simply as a descriptive term and taking "Eclipse" as the product
      name ... I know it's like saying "I use Microsoft for writing
      documents", but all developers I usually meet and talk to speak
      [and probably think] simply of "Eclipse" when they actually mean
      "Eclipse IDE"...)
    
    Dirk
    Am 26.03.2022 um 12:22 schrieb Hannes
      Wellmann:
    
    
      
      
        It is possible to move issues between repositories on
          GitHub, see [1], and it is also possible to link issues in
          other repositories by mentioning them.
         
        Although it is simpler for those that handle bugs to assign
          them to the correct repository directly, I agree that it can
          be difficult to find out which one the correct repo is,
          especially if one is not deeply involved into Eclipse
          development.
        To help those people maybe it would be useful to create a
          repo at 
https://github.com/eclipse/ide (or similar) that is
          de-facto empty and where users can report bugs for which they
          don't know the responsible project/repository for. The bugs
          could then be transferred to the correct repo by committers
          that can identify the responsible repository.
 
        But I assume there is definitely the risk that managing
          such a common bug-tracker becomes quite a great task that
          consumes too many resources. So bug reports should be
          encouraged to only use it as last resort and there should be
          good documentation/guidelines for reporters to find the
          appropriated repo by them self.
         
        
         
           
            
              Gesendet: Samstag,
                26. März 2022 um 11:07 Uhr
                
Von: "Dirk Steinkamp"
                
<Dirk.Steinkamp@xxxxxx>
                An: "Eclipse platform general developers list."
                
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                Betreff: Re: [platform-dev] Intended Bug-Tracker
                for Platform-projects hosted on GitHub
 
              
                Speaking from someone who only recently made a first
                  contribution to Eclipse, but has been using Eclipse
                  for years and occasionally reported issues, I have to
                  say that already the many existing project are simply
                  confusing to pick from when a user simply wants to
                  report something. The bugzilla seems to have the
                  option to later (re)assign it to the correct
                  subproject.
                This doesn't get better with all the different
                  eclipse-subprojects hosting their own github-projects
                  with separate issue trackers, as you can't move issues
                  from one github-project to the other, right? It's also
                  lacking an integrated overview of issues that might be
                  related, but affect different subprojects.
                So I'd favour something that can provide overarching,
                  integrating capabilities - be it bugzilla, or
                  something else.
                Dirk
                 
                Am 26.03.2022 um 09:42
                  schrieb Hannes Wellmann:
                
                  
                    At the moment it is not clear to me (maybe I
                      have missed something) if I should still use
                      Bugzilla or instead the Github Issues of for
                      Eclipse-projects that were moved to Github?
                    IIRC to was not the plan to shutdown the
                      associated Bugzilla now, but does this also mean
                      that bugs should still be reported there or should
                      GH issues be used for that as soon as a project
                      was moved?
                    At the moment I have the impression both is
                      used, which is IMHO not ideal but probably hard to
                      avoid in a transition phase.
                     
                    Thanks,
                    Hannes
                     
                     
                   
                   
                  
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