| Re: [papyrus-rt-dev] Papyrus-RT Mattermost developer discussion channel. |
But… stirring the pot can be a good thing, else the food sticks at the bottom of the pot and burns…Mattermost is at its simplest, a team discussion and collaboration environment. There are the features of Mattermost:Mattermost provides:* group chat* direct messaging* private chat rooms* messages, comments and description fields* a wide range of font formatting, headings, tables, and image embedding options* full markdown support* hashtags* Auto-highlight messages you wrote – to easily see what you said* file uploads - Share files and images internally and externally* archiving and search (including search by hashtag)* search public and private channels for historical messages and comments* view recent mentions of your name, username, nickname* support for multilingual teams* comment threads for easy-to-follow conversations.* personalize notifications for unread messages and mentions by source* Access anywhere: clients available for computers and mobile devices - attach sound, video and image files from mobile device* email interaction (through Mattermail)* IRC bridge (does anyone still use IRC? I haven’t in ages…)and also, in our particular case:* Eclipse project infrastructure for Mattermost (RSS, Git, Gerrit, Bugzilla, Eclipse Forums, Twitter, Mailing Lists, Jenkins/Hudson)A lot of this can be done by email, but not everything.I personally think it would be worth it to get off mail for this type of collaboration./Charles_______________________________________________On 2017-03-22, at 14:14 , Ernesto Posse <eposse@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:I don't mean to stir the pot, but how is the Mattermost channel supposed to be different from this mailing list, other than where it is hosted? If both this list and the channel are open to the general public, and both are intended to discuss developer related issues, then which issues are supposed to be meant for the list and which for the channel?It may be worth having something more independent from the rest of the infrastructure, but it seems like yet another means of communication to keep track of.--ErnestoOn Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 1:13 PM Christian Damus <give.a.damus@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:Perhaps Eclipse is paying for colo in some server farm run by Google? Looks like a complex setup anyways, but probably reasonably independent of the rest of the Eclipse infrastructure. Even so, keeping communications out of the email inbox and the mailman archive interface is a good thing.
Cheers,Christian_______________________________________________
On Mar 22, 2017, 13:10 -0400, Peter Cigéhn <peter.cigehn@xxxxxxxxx>, wrote:
_______________________________________________Hi,Also when following the About link at the bottom of https://mattermost.eclipse.org/ you end up on https://wiki.eclipse.org/Mattermost/About which states:This service, and any data you submit to it, is maintained on a best-effort basis by Eclipse committers, using hardware sponsored by the Eclipse Foundation:
- The Eclipse Webmaster does not operate this service, it is a best effort by committers
- The data is not managed or maintained by the Eclipse Foundation
Not sure how "using hardware sponsored by the Eclipse Foundation" shall be interpreted./Peter Cigéhn
On 22 March 2017 at 18:02, Peter Cigéhn <peter.cigehn@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi,When checking the IP adress for mattermost.eclipse.org, 130.211.193.49, it actually seem to be hosted by Google.At least the address range belongs to "Google Cloud". Not sure though if this means that is not hosted by Eclipse.org itself, or if it just happens to be an address within a range that belongs to Google./Peter Cigéhn
On 22 March 2017 at 17:53, charles+zeligsoft.com <charles@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Yes, but not all Eclipse servers are created equal… The Foundation's web site and forums appear to be on servers that are more stable than the mailing lists… It’s worth a try./Charles
On 2017-03-22, at 11:13 , Ernesto Posse <eposse@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Is Mattermost hosted on Eclipse servers? My understanding was that one of the main reasons to have a separate communication mechanism was the unreliability of Eclipse servers, no?--Ernesto PosseZeligsoft
Hello all!_______________________________________________In order to lighten the load on Bugzilla (and hopefully have more concise bug histories) and on this mailing list, and after discussions with a few of you, I have created a channel on Eclipse’s Mattermost server for Papyrus-RT developer discussions. You can access it from https://mattermost.eclipse.org/eclipse/channels/papyrus-rt.Note that this channel is intended to be used for discussions about the implementation and development of Papyrus-RT. It is not meant as a support channel for _users_ of Papyrus-RT - the community forum should still be used for that.You can, of course, access it through the web, but there are also clients for various platforms.For those who are not aware, Mattermost is an open-source alternative to Slack.This approach has already been adopted by some Eclipse projects such as CDT, Orion, Modeling, and more.
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