Re: [nebula-dev] Nebula release and graduation

[Wayne Beaton <wayne@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

This is what is in the Neon simultaneous release repository.

I'm a little concerned that these have been appearing in simultaneous releases for a while, Sure the world hasn't stopped turning, but this is a violation of the process.

Strictly speaking, NatTable should not be consuming the unreleased components from Nebula.

wbeaton@build:~> find downloads/releases/ -name *eclipse.nebula* | grep -v nattable
downloads/releases/galileo/200909241140/aggregate/plugins/org.eclipse.nebula.widgets.compositetable_1.0.0.jar.pack.gz
downloads/releases/galileo/200909241140/aggregate/plugins/org.eclipse.nebula.widgets.compositetable.source_1.0.0.jar.pack.gz
downloads/releases/galileo/201002260900/aggregate/plugins/org.eclipse.nebula.widgets.compositetable_1.0.0.jar.pack.gz
downloads/releases/galileo/201002260900/aggregate/plugins/org.eclipse.nebula.widgets.compositetable.source_1.0.0.jar.pack.gz
downloads/releases/neon/201512181000/plugins/org.eclipse.nebula.widgets.tablecombo_1.0.0.201511041902.jar
downloads/releases/neon/201605061000/plugins/org.eclipse.nebula.widgets.tablecombo_1.0.0.201604151927.jar
downloads/releases/neon/201605061000/plugins/org.eclipse.nebula.widgets.richtext_1.0.0.201604151927.jar
downloads/releases/neon/201603301000/plugins/org.eclipse.nebula.widgets.tablecombo_1.0.0.201602191853.jar
downloads/releases/neon/201602051000/plugins/org.eclipse.nebula.widgets.tablecombo_1.0.0.201602011643.jar
downloads/releases/kepler/201306260900/plugins/org.eclipse.nebula.widgets.compositetable.source_1.0.0.jar
downloads/releases/kepler/201306260900/plugins/org.eclipse.nebula.widgets.grid_1.0.0.HEAD.jar
downloads/releases/kepler/201306260900/plugins/org.eclipse.nebula.widgets.compositetable_1.0.0.jar
downloads/releases/mars/201510021000/plugins/org.eclipse.nebula.widgets.tablecombo_1.0.0.201509022342.jar
downloads/releases/mars/201602261000/plugins/org.eclipse.nebula.widgets.tablecombo_1.0.0.201602111357.jar
downloads/releases/helios/201102250900/aggregate/plugins/org.eclipse.nebula.widgets.compositetable_1.0.0.jar.pack.gz
downloads/releases/helios/201102250900/aggregate/plugins/org.eclipse.nebula.widgets.compositetable_1.0.0.jar
downloads/releases/helios/201009240900/aggregate/plugins/org.eclipse.nebula.widgets.compositetable_1.0.0.jar.pack.gz
downloads/releases/helios/201009240900/aggregate/plugins/org.eclipse.nebula.widgets.compositetable_1.0.0.jar
downloads/releases/helios/201006230900/aggregate/plugins/org.eclipse.nebula.widgets.compositetable_1.0.0.jar.pack.gz
downloads/releases/helios/201006230900/aggregate/plugins/org.eclipse.nebula.widgets.compositetable_1.0.0.jar
downloads/releases/indigo/201106220900/aggregate/plugins/org.eclipse.nebula.widgets.compositetable_1.0.0.jar.pack.gz
downloads/releases/indigo/201106220900/aggregate/plugins/org.eclipse.nebula.widgets.compositetable_1.0.0.jar
downloads/releases/indigo/201109230900/aggregate/plugins/org.eclipse.nebula.widgets.compositetable_1.0.0.jar.pack.gz
downloads/releases/indigo/201109230900/aggregate/plugins/org.eclipse.nebula.widgets.compositetable_1.0.0.jar
downloads/releases/indigo/201202240900/aggregate/plugins/org.eclipse.nebula.widgets.compositetable_1.0.0.jar

Clearly projects want to consume Nebula components and a few have been sneaked in.

Regardless, however, Nebula has been around for a very long time and has never done a release. It needs to graduate.

Wayne

On 12/05/16 04:49 PM, Wim Jongman wrote:

Hey S. Gonzales!

This is only what NatTable consumes. What about the rest of the projects?

Wim

On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 10:46 PM, Wayne Beaton <wayne@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

wbeaton@build:~> find downloads/releases/neon/ -name *eclipse.nebula* | grep -v nattable
downloads/releases/neon/201512181000/plugins/org.eclipse.nebula.widgets.tablecombo_1.0.0.201511041902.jar
downloads/releases/neon/201605061000/plugins/org.eclipse.nebula.widgets.tablecombo_1.0.0.201604151927.jar
downloads/releases/neon/201605061000/plugins/org.eclipse.nebula.widgets.richtext_1.0.0.201604151927.jar
downloads/releases/neon/201603301000/plugins/org.eclipse.nebula.widgets.tablecombo_1.0.0.201602191853.jar
downloads/releases/neon/201602051000/plugins/org.eclipse.nebula.widgets.tablecombo_1.0.0.201602011643.jar

HTH,

Wayne

On 12/05/16 04:44 PM, Wim Jongman wrote:

We should be able to investigate what is being consumed by the release train. If this also includes one or more of the "unsupported widgets" then we need to decide if we add those as well or let these consumers know that they are in violation.

David could you produce a list with references to org.eclipse.nebula projects?

On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 10:16 PM, Dirk Fauth <dirk.fauth@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

As far as I understood Wim, the idea is to first clean up the list of committers, specify the widgets/projects that should be in the release and possibly update the widget versions to 1.0.0 to match the version rules regarding maturity.

From my point of view the set of widgets for the release is set. At least that would be what the community expects. What is currently communicated as released should be released. I think that would be the easiest way to proceed. Not sure if Wim planned to also move some of the incubation widgets to the release aswell.

Regarding the IP log, do we need to wait for the cleanup or should we send it in immediately via https://projects.eclipse.org/projects/technology.nebula/iplog/preview ?

On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 9:49 PM, Wayne Beaton <wayne@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

A bunch of projects are already using Nebula widgets. This is a bit problematic from an EDP POV because Nebula has never done (AFAICT) a formal release and is still incubating.

It's long past time to do a proper release and graduate the project.

Can we do this soon?

AFAICT, the project downloads are IP clean, so getting the IP Log approved should only take a couple of seconds of effort.

The project is hosting downloads [1] (though, I'd prefer that you not use the term "Projects" like you are; that term is already confusing enough).

There is still lots of activity on the project, but it does seem that many/most of the widgets are stable.

What's stopping us from doing this?

Wayne

[1] https://www.eclipse.org/nebula/downloads.php

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