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Re: [microprofile-wg] DISCUSSION Thread: MicroProfile dependency on Jakarta EE (tight or loose)

Added some very minor comments. I think it's thorough enough already for people to make a decision.

On 3/1/2023 6:23 PM, Emily Jiang via microprofile-wg wrote:
After some lengthy discussion regarding the issue David raised in this thread that MicroProfile 7.0 is trying to solve, we revealed this googledoc  containing some proposals in yesterday's MicroProfile technical call. There are 4 proposals listed with cons/pros included.

For Proposal 4: Making the MicroProfile a profile of Jakarta EE, the group felt that there was a prerequisite to dissolve MicroProfile working group. This might not be feasible to release MicroProfile 7.0 in June 2023. With this in mind, the group felt it might be better for us to focus on Option 1, 2 and 3 and discuss further in the next few days till Tuesday next week. At the MicroProfile Live Hangout, we can decide whether we need further discussion or put up for a vote on Option 1, 2 or 3 among MicroProfile Working Members.

Proposal 1: MicroProfile releases support a minimum Jakarta EE versions
Proposal 2: Create MicroProfile Lite and rename the current umbrella to MicroProfile Full
Proposal 3: Release new MicroProfile versions when new Jakarta EE/Java SE versions are released
I understand not everyone was in yesterday's call. Please use this thread to share your thoughts.
Alternatively, please comment on the cons/pros of each individual proposal.

Thanks
Emily

On Wed, Feb 8, 2023 at 6:25 PM 'Emily Jiang' via MicroProfile <microprofile@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Thank you Arjan! Your proposal was added to the doc. We will continue the discussion of MicroProfile 7.0 next Tuesday.

On Wednesday, February 8, 2023 at 3:47:44 PM UTC Arjan Tijms wrote:
Hi,

On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 6:09:14 PM UTC+1 Emily Jiang wrote:
As promised, I have created this googledoc to capture and log some comments for this conversation.

Thanks for creating the document Emily.

Could you also add my proposal of making the Micro Profile a profile of Jakarta EE to the document as proposal 4?

I know some of you may think it's a peculiar proposal, but I would like to ask those people to do the following thought experiment:

"If the micro profile didn't exist yet, and today, given the situation of how Jakarta EE is at Eclipse and everything, we would talk about adding a micro profile and associated new APIs. Would you then wanted to create a new working group for this new micro profile, or would you add it as a profile to Jakarta EE?"

My guess is you already know the answer to this, but truthfully for yourself, go through this mental exercise. It may also help to think about why we didn't create new or separate working groups for the core profile last year and for the web profile after it was transferred.

Kind regards,
Arjan Tijms


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