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[jakartaee-platform-dev] [DISCUSS] [CLOSED] Mark Application Client as deprecated in Jakarta EE 12 Platform Profile?
  • From: Ed Burns <Edward.Burns@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2025 18:50:03 +0000
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  • Thread-topic: [DISCUSS] [CLOSED] Mark Application Client as deprecated in Jakarta EE 12 Platform Profile?

Greetings programs,

 

Thanks for your discussion and feedback on this important topic for EE 12.

 

I believe we have sufficient discussion to pursue proposing marking App Client Container (ACC) as deprecated for eventual removal during EE 12. We will take no action on marking ACC as deprecated in EE 11.

 

I propose the next step is to resume the effort to poll the vendors directly, as described in JEA-415-deprecate-acc-poll-vendors. I think this poll should include a reference to this discussion thread. (Archive link)

 

Thanks,

 

Ed

 

 

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From: jakartaee-platform-dev <jakartaee-platform-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx> On Behalf Of lenny--- via jakartaee-platform-dev
Sent: Friday, January 10, 2025 11:46
To: jakartaee-platform developer discussions <jakartaee-platform-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: lenny@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [jakartaee-platform-dev] [DISCUSS] Mark Application Client as deprecated in Jakarta EE 11 Platform Profile?

 

I can confirm this. I have never seen “actual use” of ACC in the wild.

Remote EJB calls from Java SE / Swing / JavaFX - Definitely, but not ACC.

 

Thank you Arjan for clarifying this, I was also confused by this point.

 

+1 to deprecate ACC from EE.



On Jan 9, 2025, at 7:44 AM, Reza Rahman via jakartaee-platform-dev <jakartaee-platform-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

 

The reason for this is that vendor-specific remote JNDI lookup pre-dates the ACC. It’s just a very narrow set of customers that ever bothered with the ACC.

 

From: jakartaee-platform-dev <jakartaee-platform-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx> on behalf of Arjan Tijms via jakartaee-platform-dev <jakartaee-platform-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, January 9, 2025 1:57 AM
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Cc: Arjan Tijms <arjan.tijms@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [jakartaee-platform-dev] [DISCUSS] Mark Application Client as deprecated in Jakarta EE 11 Platform Profile?

 

 

 

On Tue, 3 Dec 2024 at 14:30, Jan via jakartaee-platform-dev <jakartaee-platform-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

 

As I understand it the appclient is what Swing uses to connect to the application server. I'm now mostly retired but I can refer to the last 20+ years of development in Java/JavaEE/JakartaEE.

 

My hunch is that quite a lot of people confuse "plain" remote JNDI access (using some client libs and InitialContext) with the application client container. All the Swing applications I ever saw in the same last 20+ years used remote JNDI access to talk to a J2EE/Java EE server.

 

The actual application client container does uses this technology under the hood, but is a rather distinct thing itself.

 

Kind regards,

Arjan Tijms

 

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