[jakarta.ee-spec.committee] Review for Approval: Jakarta EE Specificatio

[Andrew Pielage <andrew.pielage@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

The minutes for the September 3rd Specification Committee call are below and are also available here. Please review and be ready for approval during our call on September 17th.

Jakarta EE Spec Committee - September 3rd, 2025

Attendees (present in bold):

Kenji Kazumura - Fujitsu

Emily Jiang - IBM - Tom Watson

Ed Bratt - Oracle - Dmitry Kornilov

Andrew Pielage (chair)  - Payara - Petr Aubrecht

David Blevins - Tomitribe - Jean-Louis Monteiro, Cesar Hernandez

Ivar Grimstad - PMC Representative

Marcelo Ancelmo - Participant Member -  Abraham Marin-Perez

Werner Keil - Committer Member

Jun Qian - Primeton Information Technologies - Enterprise Member

Zhai Luchao -  Shandong Cvicse Middleware Co. - Enterprise Member

Guest - Jakarta EE 12 co-release coordinators: Jared Anderson, James Perkins

 

Eclipse Foundation: Tanja Obradovic

Past business / action items:

• Approval is requested for the minutes from the August 6th, 2025 meeting as drafted - Approved
• Approval is requested for the minutes from the August 20th, 2025 meeting as drafted - Approved

Agenda:

• EE 11 Update [Ed Burns]
• Retrospective update
• [Carry over from July 9th]: 
• Retrospective was done on the platform call (issue link, document link)
• Need to review retro link to figure out what may need action by spec committee vs others
• Any remaining business on EE11
• Jakarta EE 12 Update [Jared Anderson]
• Query advancing
• Jakarta EE Namespace
• [Carry over from July 23rd, August 6th, August 20th]:
• Discuss straw poll results/voting and actions
• Do we run the straw poll again with only options 1 and 4?
• Do we want to simply accept MicroProfile retaining its namespace for now, and finish defining the rules later?
• Do we want to assign an investigative writeup of pros vs cons of defining it as a Jakarta working group wide rule (e.g. JESP rule) vs. delegating any namespace decision to the Platform team?
• Impossible to predict the future: rules may restrict us
• Spec Committee and Platform team have existing controls which can be leveraged without any additional namespace working group rules
• A new “Jakarta MicroProfile” profile would require a creation/release review
• Our concern is whether we need further controls or processes
• How do we move forward?
• Another vote?
• Draft a resolution?
• “Resolved; Jakarta EE Specification Committee welcomes the joining of MicroProfile. In joining the Jakarta EE Working Group, they must abide by the JESP and release procedures.”
• Vote held in call: proposed by Andrew Pielage, seconded by Emily Jiang
• No votes against.
• Request for chair cover next call: September 17th
• Tom Watson will chair
• Ongoing tracking spreadsheet of specifications progressing through the JESP specification version lifecycle
• May need to check with Project Management Committee on what to do on Jakarta Config and Jakarta RPC: due a progress review and are unresponsive
• Issue #55 - TCK Archive Format [Ed Bratt]
• Check in on Ed Bratt’s PR: pending
• Issue #83 - Clean up and clarify how to list TCK service releases on spec pages [Andrew Pielage]
• Check on progress of pull requests
• Issue #74 - TCK challenge automatic acceptance - [Ed Bratt]
• Check on progress of specifications
• Issue #58 - TCK challenge templates [Andrew Pielage]
• Check on progress of pull requests
• Andrew to poke the individual specifications
• Issue #82 - Consistent approach for TCK challenge exclusions [Ed Bratt]
• Carry over from February 19th: TCK Process should be updated with something akin to Scott Starks suggestion.
• Review other open issues:
• Determine which issues to label as “enhancement” and add to our board
• Close issues which are no longer relevant or have been dealt with

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Andrew Pielage
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