[jakarta.ee-spec.committee] Review for Approval: Jakarta EE Specificatio

[Andrew Pielage <andrew.pielage@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

The minutes for the June 11th Specification Committee call are below and are also available here. Please review and be ready for approval during our call on June 25th.

Jakarta EE Spec Committee - June 11th, 2025

Attendees (present in bold):

Kenji Kazumura - Fujitsu

Emily Jiang - IBM - Tom Watson

Ed Bratt - Oracle - Dmitry Kornilov

Andrew Pielage (chair)  - Payara - Petr Aubrecht

David Blevins - Tomitribe - Jean-Louis Monteiro, Cesar Hernandez

Ivar Grimstad - PMC Representative

Marcelo Ancelmo - Participant Member -  Abraham Marin-Perez

Werner Keil - Committer Member

Jun Qian - Primeton Information Technologies - Enterprise Member

Zhai Luchao -  Shandong Cvicse Middleware Co. - Enterprise Member

Guest - Jakarta EE 11 co-release coordinators: Ed Burns, Jared Anderson

 

Eclipse Foundation: Tanja Obradovic

Past business / action items:

• Approval is requested for the minutes from the May 28th, 2025 meeting as drafted - Approved

Agenda:

• Catch up on the Jakarta EE 11 Release Plan [Ed Burns]
• EE 11 - Prioritized backlog · Jakarta EE11 TCK Release (github.com) and Jakarta EE11 TCK Release board  
• Ballot is now started
• Earliest closure would be Monday
• Retrospective for TCK project running on June 18th
• Retrospective for Platform project running on June 24th
• Do we want to have a Specification Committee retrospective?
• We could just take actions from the TCK and Platform retrospectives?
• We did do an “informal” one for EE10
• Catch up on the Jakarta EE 12 Release Plan [Jared Anderson]
• Project board: https://github.com/orgs/jakartaee/projects/17/views/1
• An update was provided in the newsletter: https://newsroom.eclipse.org/eclipse-newsletter/2025/may/jakarta-ee-12-ready-hit-ground-running 
• Tanja checked - Marketing have raised awareness of this article!
• OSSRH migration deadline is this month
• Ongoing tracking spreadsheet of specifications progressing through the JESP specification version lifecycle
• Jakarta EE Namespace - Discuss whether the language we have around Jakarta package namespace requirements needs tightening up. Email.
• Who decides the namespace of a spec?
• Spec Committee can apply rules e.g. “must be jakarta.*”
• Is org.eclipse.microprofile allowed in Jakarta EE?
• Under the current JESP - arguable, depends how you read it
• Was the intention in the JESP text that it was meant to be a global rule? “everything must use jakarta.*”
• This is ambiguous, differing opinions from those who were present when this was decided
• Should we update the language in the JESP to make this clear?
• Consensus is yes we should clarify it, as it helps inform MicroProfile what their options are
• Proposed Resolution: Add to the JESP: “All specifications must use the jakarta.* namespace”
• Ivar Grimstad first
• Andrew Pielage seconded
• Will be put to the mailing list as a ballot
• Andrew Pielage to start it
• Issue #55 - TCK Archive Format [Ed Bratt]
• Ran out of time, not discussed…
• Check in on Ed Bratt’s PR: pending
• Issue #83 - Clean up and clarify how to list TCK service releases on spec pages [Andrew Pielage]
• Ran out of time, not discussed…
• Check on progress of pull requests
• Issue #74 - TCK challenge automatic acceptance - [Ed Bratt]
• Ran out of time, not discussed…
• Check on progress of specifications
• Issue #58 - TCK challenge templates [Andrew Pielage]
• Ran out of time, not discussed…
• Check on progress of pull requests
• Issue #82 - Consistent approach for TCK challenge exclusions [Ed Bratt]
• Ran out of time, not discussed…
• Carry over from February 19th: TCK Process should be updated with something akin to Scott Starks suggestion.
• Review other open issues:
• Ran out of time, not discussed…
• Determine which issues to label as “enhancement” and add to our board
• Close issues which are no longer relevant or have been dealt with

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Andrew Pielage
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