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Greetings programs and committees via Cc.
 
Consider this an out-of-band status update to my update at the Steering Committee meeting on Tuesday 2024-10-15. At that meeting, I stated:
 
- The Platform Project is re-evaluating the ability to deliver EE 11 in time for the ballots to complete in time for JakartaOne on 2024-12-03.
 - We are confident to be able to do this for the Core Profile.
 - We are not as confident to do this for the Web and Platform profiles.
 
 
Here is the update I gave at the Spec Committee on Wednesday 2024-10-16 , with Scott Stark present and representing the Platform TCK project:
 
 
The Platform TCK Team did some estimating, with the following changes:
 
- Assume <stakeholder consented estimating exercises from 2024-10-16 Platform TCK call (See agenda)>
 - With these changes, we got to GF passing 84%.
 - For discussion let's call this the "11 with exclusions" proposal.
 
- We propose to exclude the remaining 16%
 - produce a list of those excluded tests, and let the stakeholders decide.
 - It is likely that the big portion of those excluded tests are appclient tests.
 
- The Platform TCK team discussed several options for producing an offer with a high likelihood of acceptance by the voting stakeholders of the Spec Committee but put them aside in favor
 of the "11 with exclusions" proposal.
 - Discussion at the Spec Committee revealed that the "11 with exclusions" proposal does not have a high likelihood of acceptance by the voting stakeholders of the Spec Committee.
 - Ed revived one of the "put aside" proposals from the Platform TCK Team.
 
- For discussion let's call this the "10 + 11" proposal.
 - To be a ratifying compatible implementation of the Jakarta EE 11 Platform and Web Profiles, an implementation must:
 
- Pass the Jakarta EE 11 Platform TCK according to the "11 with exclusions" proposal.
 - Pass the off-the-shelf Jakarta EE 10 Platform TCK, but with a well-defined set of exclusions, as defined by the Jakarta EE Platform Project team and TCK team.
 
 
Here is the update I am giving you now:
 
The Jakarta EE Platform Project team and TCK team believes the above "10 + 11" proposal is the most likely way to deliver EE 11 in time for the ballots to complete in time for JakartaOne on 2024-12-03.
 
Thanks,
 
Ed Burns
Jakarta EE 11 co-release coordinator
 
 
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