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Re: [jakarta.ee-spec.committee] Certification Requests for Specifications with no TCK
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David Blevins wrote on 8/26/19 5:42 PM:
> We appear to have been inconsistently handling now we're supposed to handle certification for Specifications with no TCK.
I thought we decided that we would file certification requests against
the spec, but the TCK would reference the platform TCK.
> Kevin filed for both the Spec and Platform:
>
> - https://github.com/jakartaee/specifications/pull/75
> - https://github.com/jakartaee/specifications/pull/19
>
> Arjan did it only for the Spec and not the Platform:
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> - https://github.com/jakartaee/specifications/pull/52
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> I did it only for the Platform and not the Spec:
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> - https://github.com/jakartaee/specifications/pull/91
> - https://github.com/jakartaee/specifications/pull/36
>
> We should discuss this Wednesday. Open questions using Interceptor as an example:
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> - Is the Interceptor spec project, for example, supposed to evaluate all the CTS results or just the interceptor tests?
Obviously just the latter.
> - If the full results, is the Interceptor project supposed now completely understand full CTS certification requirements?
It needs to understand all the tests that are testing Interceptor requirements.
> - Can you call yourself Interceptor-certified if you pass just the Interceptor tests?
No.
> - What would it mean if say the Interceptor project rejected the full CTS certification but the Platform accepted the same results?
Then Interceptors is not approved, and the platform can't be approved.
> - What is the value this brings for the overhead it creates?
What overhead are you concerned about?
I think our goal should be to move to having separate TCKs for all of these
specs, to avoid this confusion. Do you think that increases or decreases the
overhead?
> For Managed Beans it is particularly odd as we're filling the same request twice in the same project to be evaluated by the same people.
"The same people" is an issue for much of what we're doing. You have to be
aware of what role you're acting in.
