Spec Committee Meeting Minutes May 29th, 2019

[Tanja Obradovic <tanja.obradovic@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi All,

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Spec Committee Meeting Minutes May 29th, 2019

Attendees (present in bold):

Kenji Kazumura - Fujitsu, Michael DeNicola

Dan Bandera - IBM, Kevin Sutter, Alasdair Nottingham, BJ Hargrave

Bill Shannon - Oracle, Ed Bratt, Dmitry Kornilov, Jim Wright, Will Lyons

Steve Millidge - Payara, Arjan Tijms

Scott Stark - Red Hat, Mark Little, Antoine Sabot-Durand

David Blevins - Tomitribe, Richard Monson-Haefel, Jean-Louis Monterio

Ivar Grimstad - PMC Representative

Alex Theedom - Participant Member

Werner Keil - Committer Member

Eclipse Foundation: Wayne Beaton, Tanja Obradovic, Paul Buck, Mike Milinkovich

• Past business / action items

• Approval of Meeting min May 15th, May 22nd DEFERRED

• Moving forward without the javax namespace

• We had a lengthy discussion on this topic

• Here what I heard is the statement we will share on the Jakarta EE Update call June 12th

The specification committee has put out two approaches regarding restrictions on javax package namespace use for the community to consider, Big Bang and Incremental. Based on the input we got from the community and discussions within the Working Group, the specification committee has not been able to reach  consensus on what approach should be taken, until work on the binary compatibility is further explored. With that in mind the Working Group members will invest time to work on highly functioning tool for binary compatibility and then propose / decide on an option that is the best for customers, vendors and developers.

Binary Compatibility

To address binary compatibility, we need the following:

1. Design / architecture document with detailed explanation of binary compatibility and how to achieve it

2. Proof of Concept to indicate effectiveness of binary compatibility

3. An implementation to demonstrate binary compatibility

Time-frame for completion is Feb 2020

• Status of Javax thread on Platform list

• Link to GitHub content... https://github.com/eclipse-ee4j/jakartaee-platform/tree/master/namespace

• ACTION(ALL) review content and comment (pull requests welcome). Encourage community to move discussion there.

• Link to the latest email / document

• ACTION (Wayne) reinforce with the community that the namespace will be “jakarta.*” (not “jakarta.ee.*”). Reference Ivar’s blog post on the topic https://www.agilejava.eu/2019/05/05/jakarta-going-forward/

• Binary compatibility discussion document.

• https://github.com/eclipse-ee4j/jakartaee-platform/pull/15

• ACTION (All): Request for comment.

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Tanja Obradovic

Jakarta EE Program Manager | Eclipse Foundation, Inc.

Twitter: @TanjaEclipse

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