Mike Milinkovich wrote on 10/04/2018 08:58 AM: 
    
      
      On 2018-10-03 7:00 PM, Bill Shannon
        wrote: 
       
      
        I understand the need to protect
            the Jakarta EE trademark and branding.  But, we have to be
            aware that there will be projects that will want to show
            "compliance" with the spec and tck, but without paying any
            additional licensing fees.  No matter how we word this
            restriction, someone will figure out a way around it... 
           
         
        The TCK is free.  There's no need to use the source code and
        build it yourself to save money.  The only reason to use the
        source code is to do something that the TCK license won't allow
        you to do, e.g., make a claim of partial compatibility, or
        modify the tests before claiming compatibility. 
      To add to what Bill says: there is *nothing* in this TCK
        license that says anything about "...paying any additional
        licensing fees." It is explicitly a free license to use the TCK.
        If you use the free binary TCK provided under this license you
        will be able to make factual statements of compatibility. The
        still-being-drafted *trademark* license will allow an entity to
        also use the Jakarta EE logo. I think we at the EF (and still to
        be vetted by the Steering Committee) have decided that the only
        financial requirement in that TCK license will be that
        the entity is at least a Participant Member of the Jakarta EE
        working group. 
       
     
    You mean "in that trademark license", right? 
     
  
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