| Re: [jakarta.ee-spec.committee] Specification Committee call agenda, October 3/2018 |
On 2018-10-03 12:11 PM, Ivar Grimstad wrote:
Using the calendar invite from the Spec committee calendar, so I assume it is the correct one...
--On Wed, Oct 3, 2018 at 6:10 PM Werner Keil <werner.keil@xxxxxxx> wrote:
Not today but I saw it before, sure you got the Right link?
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From: Ivar Grimstad
Sent: Wednesday, October 3, 2018 18:06
To: Jakarta specification committee
Subject: Re: [jakarta.ee-spec.committee] Specification Committee call agenda,October 3/2018
Anyone else having problems logging in to zoom? I get the message that the host is busy with another meeting.....
Ivar
On Wed, Oct 3, 2018 at 5:12 PM DeNicola, Michael <MDeNicola@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Is there a call this morning. I cannot log-in.
Please send me the zoom address.
Mike DeNicola
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Subject: [jakarta.ee-spec.committee] Specification Committee call agenda, October 3/2018
Roles of the PMC and Specification Committee:
PMC manages the governance process, and provides oversight. They ensure that the open source rules of engage are observed and the EDP as a whole is followed. They participate in the Intellectual Property process to ensure that requests for review are technically sound (e.g. ensure that the use of third party content makes technical sense). They provide best practices. The PMC owns the software "stack" (i.e. their view spans the concerns of all subprojects). The PMC tends to work more at the development/technical level.
Specification Committee owns the overall vision of how all the different specifications fit together. <strike>They provide a channel for intellectual property flows (I may not be expressing this correctly).</strike> The Specification Committee provides oversight for the implementation of the EFSP and certification process on behalf of the Working Group, owns the process of promoting and maintaining Final Specifications
Approvals from both parties are required for lifecycle Reviews.
The PMC is in the Project Leadership Chain; the Specification Committee is not.
The term "profile" is a flag for marking specifications that extend branding privileges to Compatible Implementations. Further, we apply special voting requirements to profiles, so we need a definition. Do we need the term "platform" to be formally specified as part of the process? What is special about platforms (with respect to the process)?
Is the use of this terminology sufficient?
"Compatible Implementation: is any implementation that fulfills all requirements of a Specification Version as demonstrated by fulfilling all requirements of the TCK."
Are these statements sufficient?
A Compatible Implementation must fully implement all non-optional elements of a Specification Version, must not not extend the API (no supersetting), and must fulfill all requirements of the corresponding TCK.
Is it sufficient to require that just one Compatible Implement fully implement a specification, including all optional elements?
A Specification Version must identify at least one Compatible Implementation under an Open Source License that implements all optional elements of the Specification and fulfills the requirements of all elements (including optional elements) of the TCK.
By way of clarification, when we say that a CI must implement all optional elements, does this apply to the prerequisites? e.g. (hypothetical) if one has to implement all optional elements of the JSP specification; does one have to also implement all optional elements of the servlet specification, or only those optional elements of the servlet specification that the JSP specification requires be implemented?
The answer to this question, should be an FAQ entry.
Do we need to make it clear that adding a Compatible Implementation to a Final Specification does not change the Final Specification? i.e. no ceremony is required. IMHO, the process by which Compatible Implementations get added is an implementation detail.
Wayne
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