Mike Milinkovich wrote on 05/22/18 12:47 PM: 
    
      
      On 2018-05-22 8:24 AM, Richard
        Monson-Haefel wrote: 
       
       
      
        
          
            Also, can a Particpant have multiple
              representatives on a a Specification Project? 
           
         
       
       
      I don't think that there should be an explicit rule that prohibits
      more than one committer per Participant company. But happy to have
      someone argue otherwise. 
     
    If decisions are ever made by voting (and I don't know what the EDP
    says about that), can Oracle have enough committers to out-vote
    everyone else?  That might make sense if all those committers are
    actively working on a code project, but is that what you want for
    specifications? Would you have different voting rules? 
     
     
    
      There is a different issue with the above. When you say "claim
      compliance in self certification", what are they claiming
      compliance to? If they don't have some sort of trademark license,
      I don't see how they can claim they're compatible with Jakarta EE. 
     
    If they pass the TCK, and especially if they use the distinguished
    TCK binary, how are they not compatible with the specification? 
     
    
      
        
          
             
             
            What about specifications defined outside
              the Eclipse Foundation?  Wasn’t the CDI, MVP, and
              BeanValidation specifications defined outside the JCP?  
              It should be possible to define a specifications outside
              the EF which can be accepted as the standard within
              Jakarta EE.  
           
         
       
      Honestly, this use case is driving me crazy trying to figure out
      how it can be done. 
       
      Having the Specification done elsewhere was a workaround for the
      Spec Lead problem in the JCP. And I don't think it works without a
      Spec Lead which accumulates the IP rights. Given the open IP flows
      under this new process, I cannot for the life of me figure out how
      it is even possible "...to define a specifications outside the EF
      which can be accepted as the standard within Jakarta EE...".
      Seriously. Think about it. I don't see how this works without an
      all powerful Spec Lead. Maybe someone smarter than I has a
      suggestion? 
     
    I agree. 
     
    And I thought we expected the above specifications to move to the
    Jakarta EE process? 
     
  
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