Re: [jakarta.ee-community] Respecting Java Records in Jakarta EE

[Hohwiller, Jörg <joerg.hohwiller@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

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Am 07.12.2021 um 17:40 schrieb Hohwiller, Jörg:
> Hi Darwin,
>
> IMHO a fair choice. Besides immutability it is also tricky up to 
> impossible to construct a record reflectively from its properties as 
> you can not easily figure out the order of the constructor args.
>
> What Java would really need are beans that can do things like this:
>
> https://github.com/m-m-m/entity/blob/master/bean/src/test/java/io/github/mmm/entity/bean/sql/select/SelectTest.java 
>
> <https://github.com/m-m-m/entity/blob/master/bean/src/test/java/io/github/mmm/entity/bean/sql/select/SelectTest.java> 
>
>
> It can already been done easily and perfectly but it is very hard to 
> "standardize" something like this. JavaFx properties lack a few 
> fundamental features and have been created in the wrong package space. 
> Seems like after all discussions in the Java world the topic of real 
> properties and real beans is kind of burned soil. Anyhow it is one of 
> the most urgent needs to make Java great ;)
>
> Just my few cents, hopefully not to far off the record.
>
> Cheers
>
>   Jörg
>
> Am 05.12.2021 um 19:19 schrieb Ian Darwin:
> > Records are final and immutable. This is a conscious decision on the 
> > part of the language designers (discussed at length elsewhere). To 
> > make a long mailing chain short: Let's just respect that and move on, 
> > saying we won't support (or, "you can't use") records for JPA or CDI.
> >
> >
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