| I think option 2 is just fine. In fact it would be fine for nearly
    all plugins. We could do it for all version control plugins to be
    consistent. Then we wont get complaints from svn users that
    subversion is a second class citizen and the default
    install/footprint gets smaller again.. 
 manfred
 
 
 On 12-02-03 08:22 AM, Winston Prakash wrote:
 
      
      There are two options
 - Bundle subversion plugin in the war and install SVNKit 
      dynamically on the first run.
 - Don't bundle the subversion plugin in the war (keep the source
      at Github and release it from there).  Give an opportunity to the
      user to install it at first run along with few others such as
      JFreechart or JNA if needed.
 
 Option 1 is complicated.
 
 - Plugin manager extracts the  plugin from war and creates the
      folder <HUDSON-HOME>/plugins/subversion, when hudson first
      starts.
 - We need to install svnkit under
      <HUDSON-HOME>/plugins/subversion/WEB-INF/lib
 - But when Plugin manager extract the plugin, it also loads the
      plugin and thus would break hudson
 - Also since we build subversion plugin with out svnkit, if there
      is a upgrade, that would also break. Because the plugin folder is
      wiped out first along with svnkit.
 
 IMO, the easiest option is option 2.
 
 - Winston
 
 On 2/3/12 12:56 AM, Duncan Mills wrote:
 
        
        Folks In relation to the CQ request for SVNKit 1.3.7 (CQ
          6184). We have hit a bit of a roadblock in that we can't
        distribute SVNKit from Eclipse.org (see extract below)
 Given that SVN is very much part of Hudson Core I don't think
        that we want to push it out onto the Plug-ins site (although
        that's an option in the short term). How feasible is the
        self-bootstrapping idea where we pull the JAR dynamically on
        first run?
 
 Duncan
 
 <extract>
 ------- Comment #5 From Wayne Beaton 2012-02-02 12:05:55
          [reply] -------
 IP review of previous versions of SVNKit have determined that
          there are "difficulties associated with licensing and
          pedigree".
 
 The TMate license has been determined to be incompatible with
          the EPL; this is--essentially--a full stop with respect to any
          effort to distribute this library from Eclipse.
 
 There is potential to have this library declared as a
          "WORKSWITH" on the basis that Hudson works just fine without
          this library, but has enhanced functionality if the library is
          present. The wrinkle is that the library cannot be distributed
          from eclipse.org (i.e. it cannot exist in our code
          repositories, or download server). It may be used to compile
          as part of a build on our build server as the build server is
          not accessible to the general public.
 
 FWIW, the Subversive project uses SVNKit in this manner. The
          first time you use Subversive, they open a dialog box that
          invites the user to download SVNKit (among other options); at
          that point the user is required to accept the license
          explicitly.
 
 Do you want to move forward with this as a WORKSWITH? Let me
          know if you have other questions.
 
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