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 On Jan 25, 2012, at 2:13 PM, Manfred Moser wrote: From what I understand in terms of the actual project itself (core) we
 have no choice. It is eclipse all the way including eclipse wiki and
 bugzilla.
 
 
 For Hudson core, and any code that's there we have to use Bugzilla. I meant for the content/issues outside of Eclipse. What we are currently using JIRA and Confluence for. The confluence wiki and jira will only be used for plugins and stuff going forward.. and moving that to github sounds fine but might be just busy work as well.. I would say just stick with what we got and get that to be stable and clean first.. manfred On Wed, January 25, 2012 10:55 am, Henrik Lynggaard Hansen wrote: Hi
 
 Not that I am opposed to the idea, but I do have a few concerns
 
  I am not really sure what you mean by Jira/Confluence failing to
 cater for developers (or moving away from it). I know they are
 integrating the scrum/kanban more but as far as I know it doesn't take
 away from the regular functionality. Regarding confluence I think it
 has just gotten better in the newer versions, at least from a wiki
 editing perspective.
 
 Perhaps you can elaborate a bit on the things you like in github which
 doesn't work as well in jira/confluenc ?
 
 Regarding using Github as a replacement, I have a few questions:
 
 * The current confluence have alot of information that is cross
 cutting and not related to specific plugins, such as developer guides.
 Do you suggest we move all that to the eclipse wiki?
 * What do we do about all the plugins which hasn't changed in a long
 time and thus still have a URL setting pointing to the hudson wiki ?
 * We have pages that query the current state of a plugin such as the
 hudson-plugin-info macro would we loose this functionality or can the
 eclipse wiki provide the same ?.
 * if we move shared content to the eclipse wiki, will eclipse
 introduce any restrictions in contributing or is it just as open as
 our current solution.
 
 All in all, I find the suggestion worth exploring so let us see if we
 can come up with constructive answers to my concerns
 
 Best regards
 Henrik
 
 
 
 2012/1/25 Jason van Zyl <jason@xxxxxxxxx>:
 I recently tried the new versions of JIRA and Confluence for a new
 project
 and was disappointed. I'm really not impressed with JIRA and Confluence
 anymore. They are moving away from really supporting developers and
 Github
 truly is. I played around with Github issues and the wiki a while last
 week
 and I think it's good enough for anything we might want to do.
 
 I'd like to seriously consider just dumping JIRA and Confluence and just
 using Github for everything.
 
 On Jan 25, 2012, at 1:14 PM, Henrik Lynggaard Hansen wrote:
 
 Hi
 
 I am getting the following error on http://hudson-ci.org/hudson:
 
 Proxy Error
 
 The proxy server received an invalid response from an upstream server.
 The proxy server could not handle the request GET /hudson.
 
 Reason: Could not connect to remote machine: Connection refused
 
 Am I using an old link or is hudson on hudson down ?
 
 Best regards
 Henrik
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