Re: [hudson-dev] Committer vote for Lucas Panjer has been vetoed by the

[Winston Prakash <winston.prakash@xxxxxxxxx>]

Thanks Wayne.

- Winston

On 12/23/11 7:48 AM, Wayne Beaton wrote:

We've rolled back the veto and have approved the election.

Some (probably) final observations:

1) The election of Lucas was approved on the grounds that his name appears as one of the initial committers in the project proposal. FWIW, when I was prompted the approve or veto the election, I looked every *except* the project proposal for mentions of Lucas; I'll be sure to add this to my search list for future cases.

2) Involvement in a project takes many forms, and involvement in "governance meetings" is considered a contribution.

3) Statements to the effect of "we plan on making code contributions" are not generally good enough to warrant making somebody a committer (while we generally find statements of intent interesting, we put actual value on actual contributions). They are valueless in the absence of other demonstrations of merit.

Thanks,

Wayne

On 12/22/2011 11:22 PM, Wayne Beaton wrote:

It's a learning process. We'll try to resolve this as quickly and painlessly as possible.

FWIW, a response to any of my three notes to the project mailing list would have resolved this in minutes ;-)

Wayne

On 12/22/2011 09:40 PM, Winston Prakash wrote:

On 12/22/11 5:33 PM, Wayne Beaton wrote:

This would be perfect rationalization for approving the election. There's no need to re-earn your stripes, we just need a public record of why you deserve them.

I'm disappointed that nobody could provide me with this information when I asked on the hudson-dev newsgroup.

I think it was my mistake. I wasn't clear about why I nominated Lucas again. I was trying to say what Lucas says now  by quoting "Initial Committer from TaskTop".   I should have explained clearly why I nominated Lucas again. Sorry for all the confusion :-(

- Winston

I'll see if I can get webmaster to reverse my veto; otherwise, we'll have to run another election with this listed as the rationalization.

Wayne

On 12/22/2011 08:19 PM, Lucas Panjer wrote:

Wayne,

Regarding this election. As far as I understand, it should not have happened to begin with as I am listed as an initial committer on the original Hudson proposal. See: http://eclipse.org/proposals/technology.hudson/  For reasons outside my control, I was not successfully provisioned as a committer to the project upon initial creation. (I received a notice of a failed election due to expiration and missing paperwork. Unfortunately I was never notified that I needed to submit any paperwork.)

My understanding that my being on the proposal should be sufficient for me to have commit rights on the project.

In terms of my contribution intentions, I have been involved in the Hudson governance meetings, representing Tasktop and we plan on making code contributions when the project starts being released from Eclipse infrastructure. I did not realize that this delay would end up causing any problems of this sort.

In retrospect I should not have requested a new election as I am joining Hudson as an initial contributor. What I should have done, and what I am now asking for is that I be added as an initial committer to the project as specified in the proposal. The alternative seems to be to have me refused the commit rights I was initially granted and to re-earn them. I don't see the point of that since like other committers on the initial proposal I have been involved in the project and have the intent to contribute. While it seemed redundant, I was happy to see my intent endorsed by the other committers with their vote. 

I look forward to contributing to the project, and hope we can find a straightforward way for Eclipse Hudson to benefit from Tasktop's participation.

Regards,

-- 

Lucas Panjer

Software Engineer, Tasktop Sync and Cloud Services

tasktop.com

778.588.6896 x116

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