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Re: [glassfish-dev] [External] : Re: Project Lead election for David Matějček on Eclipse GlassFish®

On 13.10.2023 12:10, David Matejcek via glassfish-dev wrote:
Yes, it is a real election. There were several issues, we discussed them with Alexander and Eclipse webmasters, however the web form did not work for few days. First issue was that the template was just copy pasted from committers, and I confused Alexander when I wrote him to just ignore it (so he did). It made sense, because all required information about me, my intentions, my work on GlassFish and related projects is quite visible on GitHub and even outside, so I don't think it is a critical issue that it wasn't linked from the form. Also we did not find any forms written for past nominations, so I would expect they are not much important except this discussion thread, where everyone watching GlassFish project already knows who I am and what I do for GlassFish.

The thing is that the election has to be approved by PMC and EMO. EMO, by himself can be arbitrary person from EF who may or may not know who you are, what you do and/or why committers have chosen you. I would not expect such person to do the google/github search to find out answers. Yet I've seen in a past, that providing answers via email works, see https://www.eclipse.org/lists/ee4j-pmc/msg03365.html.

for the future reference, ie archive of the ee4j-pmc mailing list contains some examples of how the nomination should look like, see ie https://projects.eclipse.org/projects/ee4j.jstl/elections/election-paul-nicolucci-project-lead-jakarta-standard-tag-library. Another example is ie https://projects.eclipse.org/projects/ee4j.eclipselink/elections/election-joe-grassel-project-lead-eclipselink


thanks,
--lukas


Sure, Alexander could close the nomination and start it again, but I asked him to wait, because it would create yet another level of confusion. Instead I wrote the short message here to the mailing list, so anyone could ask before voting. The most active committers already voted.

It is perfectly valid to vote -1, your questions are valid too. I don't know if you would yet consider changing your vote or if you are already decided.
I will copy paste from Eclipse website:

    Project Leads are the first link in the project leadership chain and
    the primary liaison between the project team and the Eclipse
    Management Organization, or EMO. The EMO will, for example, ensure
    that the project leads are looped in in all matters regarding
    project governance. In cases where public channels should not be
    used, for example in the case where the security team receives a
    vulnerability report, the project lead is the first point of contact.

Then I would expect that leader (or at least one of leaders) of the project should be someone very active around the project. GlassFish doesn't have such active leader. Technically we already do parts of the role's responsibilities together with Arjan, Alexander, Piotr, and even Ondro despite he is not even a committer (we should probably nominate him). However, we are still quite isolated as committers, while official leaders are mostly silent.

I feel confident to represent the whole team of committers, coordinate the team and be the main point of contact in the project. It would be easier for the team to have an active project lead, who would support them in resolving project issues (ie. Jenkins issues, TCK testing, communication with EMO, etc.)

Yet several relevant links:
https://github.com/eclipse-ee4j/glassfish/graphs/contributors
https://projects.eclipse.org/projects/ee4j.glassfish/who
https://github.com/dmatej
https://omnifish.ee/

Thank you,

David.


On 13. 10. 23 9:23, Steve Millidge (Payara) wrote:
So is this a real election? I thought it was accidental due to the glitches. There is nothing in the election nomination as to why you want, need or should be project lead. What will you want to do as project lead that you can't do as a committer? How will you carry out the responsibilities of a project lead in the Eclipse process?

I will vote -1 to this as I think this needs a proper completed nomination. My vote is not a vote against David specifically.

Steve



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*Subject:* Re: [glassfish-dev] Project Lead election for David Matějček on Eclipse GlassFish®
On 08. 10. 23 18:11, emo--- via glassfish-dev wrote:
A project lead election for David Matějček on project Eclipse GlassFish®
(ee4j.glassfish) was started by Alexander Pinchuk with this criteria:

[USER] recently started [example: as a full time employee on; contributing to; etc.] the Eclipse GlassFish® team and has already made an impact on the
project.

They have addressed the following bugs:
- [List of bugs]

They have also [other things they have done].

It is my pleasure to nominate [USER] as a committer on Eclipse GlassFish®.

Eclipse GlassFish® project committers can click the election link below to
vote.

Election:
https://projects.eclipse.org/projects/ee4j.glassfish/elections/election-david-mat%C4%9Bj%C4%8Dek-project-lead-eclipse-glassfish%C2%AE <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://projects.eclipse.org/projects/ee4j.glassfish/elections/election-david-mat**Aj**Aek-project-lead-eclipse-glassfish**A__;xJvEjcKu!!ACWV5N9M2RV99hQ!NqSsQXgapgaYN6ux0lSC9ZUDiW5brkTqw32aezhM799xFJenEXKGHTXtVs8MMky3HeYXhO3T9K1ubiKRwdjvRzP51eDj$>

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Hi all,

the election system had some issues (HTTP 403/404) first days, but they were finally resolved.

Have a nice weekend and thank your for all your work done for Eclipse GlassFish or any related projects!

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David Matejcek | OmniFish
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David Matejcek | OmniFish
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