Re: [gef-dev] Latest Zest for GEF-classic

[Fabian Steeg <steeg@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi all,

following up on the wiki pages for the latest GEF-classic Zest version:

> I [...] will try to at least preserve that documentation.

I've moved the wiki content to the repo's README (with minor updates):

https://github.com/fsteeg/zest/blob/master/README.md

Cheers,
Fabian

On 6/13/23 14:42, Alois Zoitl wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I agree that having Xtext as dependency for GEF classic in general is not something I see as a good idea. However I could see an optional Zest feature (dot, or
> cloudio) which would need it. So users that would like to use this optional feature would get the Xtext dependency.
>
> But all in all it looks like a bit more work. This could be a very nice topic for a bachelor thesis. I'll put it on my list of bachelor thesis topics. Maybe I
> found a student to look into it.
>
> FYI I have currently one student doing his bachelor thesis on Zest and I find it a very nice experience for both him and me.
>
> BR,
> Alois
>
> On Tue, 2023-06-13 at 12:34 +0200, Lars Vogel wrote:
> > Hi Fabian,
> >
> > I personally would like to avoid adding a Xtext dependency to
> > GEF-classic. Lots of clients use GEF without XText.
> > Best regards, Lars
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 13, 2023 at 12:22 PM Fabian Steeg <steeg@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > Hi Alois!
> > >
> > > Sorry for the late reply, I was hoping to find some time to look into
> > > this, but I really can't assess which option would be better here, since
> > > there seem to be quite a few changes to the Zest code since then.
> > >
> > > Also, as a heads up, the Zest 2 changes introduced a dependency on
> > > Xtext, which back then, if I remember correctly, was one of the reasons
> > > to release it (only) as part of GEF4, which made major changes anyway.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Fabian
> > >
> > > On 5/17/23 15:44, Alois Zoitl wrote:
> > > > Hi Fabian,
> > > >
> > > > I'm not a Zest user but I find anything that makes GEF Classic better good. Do you think we should backport these changes to GEF Classic's version of ZEST or
> > > > upgrade GEF Classic's version of ZEST to the one you linked to?
> > > >
> > > > Cheers,
> > > > Alois
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, 2023-04-20 at 13:48 +0200, Fabian Steeg wrote:
> > > > > Hi all!
> > > > >
> > > > > Triggered by the recent activity in GEF-classic and the wiki.eclipse.org
> > > > > migration I wanted to mention that the original version of Zest 2 (which
> > > > > added pruned subgraph rendering, new layout algorithms, Graphviz DOT
> > > > > support and word cloud visualization) was originally developed for the
> > > > > GEF3/classic code base. So if there is interest in the community, it
> > > > > should be possible to integrate that into GEF-classic.
> > > > >
> > > > > Some time ago I saved that last GEF3-based state of Zest in
> > > > > https://github.com/fsteeg/zest, which seems to correspond to [1] in the
> > > > > gef repo. The latest documentation for that version seems to be here:
> > > > >
> > > > > https://wiki.eclipse.org/index.php?title=Zest&oldid=319996
> > > > > https://wiki.eclipse.org/index.php?title=Zest/DOT&oldid=330938
> > > > >
> > > > > (I can't find the original page for the word cloud component, see [2].)
> > > > >
> > > > > I enabled notifications for the wiki migration issue [3] and will try to
> > > > > at least preserve that documentation.
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > Fabian
> > > > >
> > > > > [1]
> > > > > https://github.com/eclipse/gef/tree/94a47b1df21ca59921acffd7eba442899b5580f1
> > > > > [2] https://wiki.eclipse.org/index.php?title=Zest/Cloudio&action=history
> > > > > [3] https://gitlab.eclipse.org/eclipsefdn/helpdesk/-/issues/681
> > > > > _______________________________________________