When determining whether the tasks view belongs in the Java
perspective, we should be asking this question:
Does a typical Java developer need to interact with a bug
tracking system?
Keep in mind that the default perspectives setup isn’t
there for Eclipse pros who will customize their perspectives
anyway and no two will agree on what should be where. The
default setup is really there so that a novice user can get
started relatively quickly without hunting around for tools
that they need.
We also need to be careful to keep project boundaries out
of IDE the product decisions. The fact that the tasks view
is contributed by Mylyn should be immaterial to the
discussion.
Thanks,
- Konstantin
From: Lars Vogel
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2015 7:54 AM
To: Eclipse Packaging Project
Subject: Re: [epp-dev] Mylyn in C/C++ EPP?
On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 3:05 PM, Doug
Schaefer <dschaefer@xxxxxxx>
wrote:
> I guess the question is, when would
they add it? There would have to be
> some trigger other than it¹s been
installed. And if we can¹t think of one,
> then that supports the answer that
Mylyn shouldn¹t be installed by default.
Why do they have to add it by default? A
user who wants to see the
Mylyn task view can open it up via Show
View and the user selection
would be persistent for the next start of
the IDE.
Especially now that Mylyn is part of most
distributions, they should
avoid adding their views without user
interaction. If every plug-in
would add its views to the Java
perspective by default we would end up
with a UI mess.
Best regards, Lars
>>On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 9:19 AM,
Gunnar Wagenknecht
>><gunnar@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
>>> Marc,
>>>
>>> I have to admit I'm biased,
but I would love to see a list of things
>>>that would be cleared up in
the UI. Also how much the start-up time
>>>improvement have you measured
on today's hardware? I'm interested in
>>>both because that's also
valuable feedback for Mylyn as a project as it
>>>might indicate room for
further improvements.
>>>
>>> I use the task list feature
a lot. I don't see removing this will clear
>>>up anything in the UI. I
don't use the Mylyn context at all. However,
>>>the context functionality is
separate and can be excluded from packages.
>>>I recall that this might add
additional icons to some views.
>>>
>>> -Gunnar
>>>
>>> --
>>> Gunnar Wagenknecht
>>> gunnar@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx,
http://guw.io/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Am 19.10.2015 um 13:20
schrieb Marc-André Laperle
>>>><marc-andre.laperle@xxxxxxxxxxxx>:
>>>>
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> I'm wondering if people
use Mylyn in the context of the C/C++ EPP. I'm
>>>>thinking perhaps it could
be removed from the EPP if it's not really
>>>>used. It would clear up
some things in the UI and make the package a
>>>>bit lighter (start-up
time and size).
>>>>
>>>> Let me know what you
think!
>>>>
>>>> Marc-Andre
>>>>
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