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RE: [epf-dev] EPF Wiki and contributing through a Wiki (epfwiki.net)
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I use Firefox 2.0.0.1. The only problem Ive had is that I cant add a
comment when I check-in or check-out a page for editing. Otherwise it
seems to work great.
I think baseline changes and full text search would be the most useful
items on the list, although they all look like good things to do.
Sending out an update to epf-dev actually may be the most important, but
it looks like that ones pretty easy to do.
Thanks,
Jim
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RUP Content Developer
Eclipse Process Framework (EPF) Committer www.eclipse.org/epf
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phone: 760.505.3232
fax: 949.369.0720
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On Behalf Of Ricardo Balduino/Cupertino/IBM
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 10:14 AM
To: epf-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [epf-dev] EPF Wiki and contributing through a Wiki
(epfwiki.net)
Onno, I've had some issues with Firefox, as I mentioned to you, but I
don't know about others. Maybe I should upgrade to a new version of
Firefox.
Text search may be a helpful feature to have.
Showing changed pages (as compared to a baseline) may prove to be really
useful, specially for the translation effort to keep up with the
original Web site evolution.
Upload of images is also important, since new and translated content
will have to deal with images.
The report below seems good in terms of info (who, what, when...). I
think we should try sending automatically to epf-dev (maybe weekly?) so
everyone has a sense of what has happened and take any actions needed.
One question about the comments we put in pages on the translated Web
sites: do we need to always put comments in English, or can people use
the language subject of translation? Do others care about comments being
posted in other languages than English? Or would comments in English
make it easier in case a broader discussion is needed? Just a thought.
Thanks,
Ricardo Balduino
Senior Software Engineer
IBM Rational Software (www.ibm.com/rational)
Eclipse Process Framework (www.eclipse.org/epf)
"Straaten, Onno van der" <onno.van.der.straaten@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Ricardo, Jim,
I have available some time this week to implement some enhancements,
but now I'm not sure about priority, I got the impression that most of
us use FireFox; maybe it is better to improve FireFox support first?
There are some options for improvements I considered earlier:
- fix FireFox issues;
- full text search;
- baseline changes: show changes (new, removed, changed pages) after
baseline update;
- upload of images and documents (this functionality was lost with
cleanup of code);
- and of course: update epf-dev mailing list with Wiki changes;
Any other suggestions you might have we can consider too of course.
About the information we could extract: most of the information is
already in the (daily, weekly, monthly) change report; I copied the
contents of the report below as an example.
We could show for each Wiki: name and baseline, the contributed pages
and versions of pages and comments. For each page and version: title
with link to the page, version info and version note. For each comment:
text (truncated to 50 chars?), link to comments, page and version info.
For each contribution the user (name and ID).
Other useful information might be the baseline changes (new, removed,
changed pages) in each weekly build of OpenUP.
Best Regards,
Onno
[EPF Wiki] Monthly Change Report - April 2007
Wiki Sites
Site
Baseline
New Versions
New Comments
Checkouts
OpenUP <http://www.epfwiki.net/wikis/openup>
OpenUP_Basic_published-0.9-W-20070406
4 (from 4)
3 (from 3)
1
New!
XP <http://www.epfwiki.net/wikis/xp>
XP_published-0.1-20071601
0 (from 0)
0 (from 0)
0
New!
OpenUP PT <http://www.epfwiki.net/wikis/openuppt>
OUP_PT_20070403
22 (from 22)
0 (from 0)
1
New!
Scrum <http://www.epfwiki.net/wikis/scrum>
SCRUM_20070410
0 (from 0)
0 (from 0)
0
New!
OpenUP RU <http://www.epfwiki.net/wikis/openupru>
OUP_RU_20070410
0 (from 0)
0 (from 0)
0
New!
New Versions
Page
Version
Note
Site
Created
Glossário de Tradução
<http://www.epfwiki.net/wikis/openupptopenup_basic/customcategories/glos
sário_de_tradução.html>
Version 5
Adding more content
OpenUP PT
about 4 hours ago by Paulo Moreira
Concept: Collaborate to align interests and share understanding
<http://www.epfwiki.net/wikis/openupptopenup_basic/guidances/concepts/co
re_principle_collaborate,_KkTIsMp7EdqC_NfSivunjA.html>
Version 2
terminado
OpenUP PT
about 4 hours ago by takai
Task: Plan Iteration
<http://www.epfwiki.net/wikis/openupopenup_basic/tasks/plan_iteration,_0
keUEMlgEdmt3adZL5Dmdw.html>
Version 1
Resolution of BUG 170803
OpenUP
about 19 hours ago by Ana Paula Valente Pereira
Concept: Collaborate to align interests and share understanding
<http://www.epfwiki.net/wikis/openupptopenup_basic/guidances/concepts/co
re_principle_collaborate,_KkTIsMp7EdqC_NfSivunjA.html>
Version 1
Tradução parcial.
OpenUP PT
about 20 hours ago by takai
Concept: Balance competing priorities to maximize stakeholder value
<http://www.epfwiki.net/wikis/openupptopenup_basic/guidances/concepts/co
re_principle_balance,_ssG6MMvpEdqukPpotm3DYg.html>
Version 2
Acerto da formatação
OpenUP PT
about 20 hours ago by takai
Concept: Balance competing priorities to maximize stakeholder value
<http://www.epfwiki.net/wikis/openupptopenup_basic/guidances/concepts/co
re_principle_balance,_ssG6MMvpEdqukPpotm3DYg.html>
Version 1
OpenUP PT
about 23 hours ago by takai
Custom Category
<http://www.epfwiki.net/wikis/openupptopenup_basic/customcategories/core
_principles_category,_UCOtoMXwEduywMSzPTUUwA.html>
Version 4
Correção: alinhas para alinhar.
OpenUP PT
1 day ago by takai
Guideline: Minimal, Complete, and Extensible
<http://www.epfwiki.net/wikis/openupptopenup_basic/guidances/guidelines/
minimal_complete_extensible,_Nm5vUK__EduMeuOwJ2MpeQ.html>
Version 2
OpenUP PT
1 day ago by takai
Guideline: Minimal, Complete, and Extensible
<http://www.epfwiki.net/wikis/openupptopenup_basic/guidances/guidelines/
minimal_complete_extensible,_Nm5vUK__EduMeuOwJ2MpeQ.html>
Version 1
OpenUP PT
1 day ago by takai
Guideline: OpenUP and OpenUP/Basic
<http://www.epfwiki.net/wikis/openupptopenup_basic/guidances/guidelines/
openup_and_openup_basic,_v2l6gK_5EduMeuOwJ2MpeQ.html>
Version 1
OpenUP PT
1 day ago by takai
Custom Category
<http://www.epfwiki.net/wikis/openupptopenup_basic/customcategories/core
_principles_category,_UCOtoMXwEduywMSzPTUUwA.html>
Version 3
OpenUP PT
1 day ago by takai
Custom Category
<http://www.epfwiki.net/wikis/openupptopenup_basic/customcategories/core
_principles_category,_UCOtoMXwEduywMSzPTUUwA.html>
Version 2
OpenUP PT
1 day ago by takai
Custom Category
<http://www.epfwiki.net/wikis/openupptopenup_basic/customcategories/core
_principles_category,_UCOtoMXwEduywMSzPTUUwA.html>
Version 1
OpenUP PT
1 day ago by takai
Glossário de Tradução
<http://www.epfwiki.net/wikis/openupptopenup_basic/customcategories/glos
sário_de_tradução.html>
Version 4
OpenUP PT
1 day ago by takai
Glossário de Tradução
<http://www.epfwiki.net/wikis/openupptopenup_basic/customcategories/glos
sário_de_tradução.html>
Version 3
Including some terms
OpenUP PT
1 day ago by Paulo Moreira
Custom Category
<http://www.epfwiki.net/wikis/openupptopenup_basic/customcategories/intr
oduction_to_openup_basic,_BTJ_YMXwEduywMSzPTUUwA.html>
Version 6
Added link to Translation Glossary to top of intro page for easy access.
Remove link when we are done with translation, but save page somewhere
else.
OpenUP PT
1 day ago by Ricardo Balduino
Glossário de Tradução
<http://www.epfwiki.net/wikis/openupptopenup_basic/customcategories/glos
sário_de_tradução.html>
Version 2
OpenUP PT
1 day ago by Ricardo Balduino
Glossário de Tradução
<http://www.epfwiki.net/wikis/openupptopenup_basic/customcategories/glos
sário_de_tradução.html>
Version 1
Translation glossary created to help translation process.
OpenUP PT
1 day ago by Ricardo Balduino
Custom Category
<http://www.epfwiki.net/wikis/openupptopenup_basic/customcategories/intr
oduction_to_openup_basic,_BTJ_YMXwEduywMSzPTUUwA.html>
Version 5
Link added at the bottom of the page didn't work. Making it plain text,
so we remember to add the link later.
OpenUP PT
1 day ago by Ricardo Balduino
Custom Category
<http://www.epfwiki.net/wikis/openupptopenup_basic/customcategories/intr
oduction_to_openup_basic,_BTJ_YMXwEduywMSzPTUUwA.html>
Version 4
Mudei acentuação e acrescentei um link no final to texto, que foi já
adicionado ao OpenUP/Basic original
OpenUP PT
1 day ago by Ricardo Balduino
Discipline: Architecture
<http://www.epfwiki.net/wikis/openupopenup_basic/disciplines/architectur
e,_0TX9AMlgEdmt3adZL5Dmdw.html>
Version 1
OpenUP
1 day ago by Jim Ruehlin
Guideline: Software Reuse
<http://www.epfwiki.net/wikis/openupopenup_basic/guidances/guidelines/gu
ideline_software_reuse.html>
Version 1
OpenUP
1 day ago by Jim Ruehlin
Custom Category
<http://www.epfwiki.net/wikis/openupptopenup_basic/customcategories/intr
oduction_to_openup_basic,_BTJ_YMXwEduywMSzPTUUwA.html>
Version 3
pequena correção: de balanciar para balancear
OpenUP PT
5 days ago by zalkind
Custom Category
<http://www.epfwiki.net/wikis/openupptopenup_basic/customcategories/intr
oduction_to_openup_basic,_BTJ_YMXwEduywMSzPTUUwA.html>
Version 2
Some minor changes after review
OpenUP PT
5 days ago by Paulo Moreira
Custom Category
<http://www.epfwiki.net/wikis/openupptopenup_basic/customcategories/intr
oduction_to_openup_basic,_BTJ_YMXwEduywMSzPTUUwA.html>
Version 1
First translation to Portuguese
OpenUP PT
6 days ago by Paulo Moreira
Role: Developer
<http://www.epfwiki.net/wikis/openupopenup_basic/roles/developer,_0YDosM
lgEdmt3adZL5Dmdw.html>
Version 1
I changed the brief description and added a link to the test case in the
modifies area.
OpenUP
13 days ago by Brian Lyons
New Comments
Comment
Page
Site
Created
I wonder if we want to say ...
Role: Developer
<https://owa.nl.logicacmg.com/exchange/75611/Drafts/RE:%20%5Bepf-dev%5D%
20EPF%20Wiki%20and%20contributing%20through%20a%20Wiki%20(epfwiki.net).E
ML/www.epfwiki.net/wikis/openupopenup_basic/roles/developer,_0YDosMlgEdm
t3adZL5Dmdw.html>
OpenUP
6 days ago by Jim Ruehlin
This discipline has changed...
Discipline: Implementation
<https://owa.nl.logicacmg.com/exchange/75611/Drafts/RE:%20%5Bepf-dev%5D%
20EPF%20Wiki%20and%20contributing%20through%20a%20Wiki%20(epfwiki.net).E
ML/www.epfwiki.net/wikis/openupopenup_basic/disciplines/implementation,_
0TeDoMlgEdmt3adZL5Dmdw.html>
OpenUP
13 days ago by Jim Ruehlin
This discipline has changed...
Discipline: Analysis & Design
<https://owa.nl.logicacmg.com/exchange/75611/Drafts/RE:%20%5Bepf-dev%5D%
20EPF%20Wiki%20and%20contributing%20through%20a%20Wiki%20(epfwiki.net).E
ML/www.epfwiki.net/wikis/openupopenup_basic/disciplines/analysis_and_des
ign,_0TX9AMlgEdmt3adZL5Dmdw.html>
OpenUP
13 days ago by Jim Ruehlin
New Users
Allan Halme, takai, zalkind, Ronaldo Luiz, tom weinberger, Paulo
Moreira, Calen Legaspi, Aitor, hopeshared, Onno
Checkouts
Page
Version
Site
Created
Guideline: Minimal, Complete, and Extensible
<https://owa.nl.logicacmg.com/exchange/75611/Drafts/RE:%20%5Bepf-dev%5D%
20EPF%20Wiki%20and%20contributing%20through%20a%20Wiki%20(epfwiki.net).E
ML/www.epfwiki.net/wikis/openupptopenup_basic/guidances/guidelines/minim
al_complete_extensible,_Nm5vUK__EduMeuOwJ2MpeQ.html>
Version 2
OpenUP PT
1 day ago by takai
Task: Plan Iteration
<https://owa.nl.logicacmg.com/exchange/75611/Drafts/RE:%20%5Bepf-dev%5D%
20EPF%20Wiki%20and%20contributing%20through%20a%20Wiki%20(epfwiki.net).E
ML/www.epfwiki.net/wikis/openupopenup_basic/tasks/plan_iteration,_0keUEM
lgEdmt3adZL5Dmdw.html>
Version 1
OpenUP
about 19 hours ago by Ana Paula Valente Pereira
Generated on: Wed Apr 11 10:43:05 -0700 2007
Showing changes since: Mon Mar 12 10:43:05 -0700 2007
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On Behalf Of Ricardo Balduino
Sent: woensdag 4 april 2007 2:43
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Subject: RE: [epf-dev] EPF Wiki and contributing through a Wiki
(epfwiki.net)
There's a separate thread I'm having with Eclipse legal on this very
topic. I'll post to this list when I get an answer from them.
Thanks,
Ricardo Balduino
Senior Software Engineer
IBM Rational Software (www.ibm.com/rational)
Eclipse Process Framework (www.eclipse.org/epf)
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I agree Onno, this is a great idea. Should we have a meeting to figure
out the process by which the contributions and comments would work
before we check with Eclipse legal? Or can we reference the wiki in
epf-dev and newsgroup threads?
BTW, the RSS feed for wiki changes is a great feature too!
Thanks,
Jim
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Onno,
I think it is a great idea to periodically send an automatic message to
epf-dev with a summary of what has been contributed to the Wiki. We'd
need to clear with Eclipse legal that this approach works though.
I'd say we start with weekly reports, so we have a sense of the volume
of contributions.
What information could we automatically extract? It would be interesting
to see in this report, as a minimum:
- Web site name and version
- list of pages contributed/changed,
- list of contributors
- name or user ID
- date of contribution
- material contributed (this may be too much, a link to the Wiki
page may be more feasible)
- any other information?
Thanks,
Ricardo Balduino
Senior Software Engineer
IBM Rational Software (www.ibm.com/rational)
Eclipse Process Framework (www.eclipse.org/epf)
"Straaten, Onno van der" <onno.van.der.straaten@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Hi group,
Last week I created a new site http://epfwiki.net <http://epfwiki.net/>
with the Wiki technology that was donated by LogicaCMG and that is
currently under Eclipse Legal Review. The trigger for creating this site
is the translation effort, but of course it can also host regular weekly
builds of published sites that can be downloaded from
http://www.eclipse.org/epf <http://www.eclipse.org/epf> . I like to
consider this site an unofficial EPF community site, sponsored by
LogicaCMG, created using software that will eventually be EPF software,
after a positive Eclipse Legal Review.
There is also a demo site http://demo.epfwiki.net
<http://demo.epfwiki.net/> with a demo account demo@xxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:demo@xxxxxxxxxxx> with password demo where you can try out this
technology.
An interesting was raised by Ricardo while we were discussing use of it
for the translation effort: how Wikis can be accepted as a means of
contributing as expected by the Eclipse organization. Of course this is
an unofficial site but it would be nice if contributions made there
would also be recognized by the Eclipse organization, similar to
Bugzilla and the official discussions lists.
I think there are a number of approaches to this interesting issue. I
like to present what I think is a pragmatic approach: send every Wiki
contribution to the epf-dev mailing list. We could do this real-time or
send a daily, weekly or even monthly report. Do you think this is a
viable option, good approach? If we think it is, I like to ask the
committers to make a decision on it and maybe put it to a vote?
Best Regards,
Onno
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