Wow Deen, these are really good, thank
you. I’m seeing a lot of good ways to express the iterative and
collaborative nature of OpenUP.
So let me introduce myself, I’m a
Ph.D student at the University of British Columbia and also an EPF Committer
looking for victims…sorry I mean enthusiastic people who are interested
in making contributions to OpenUP. I am specifically responsible for “General
and Overarching Issues” which effectively covers all content that is not directly
associated with a specific discipline. Would you be interested in participating
in OpenUP or other aspects of the EPF project?
Best regards,
Steve Adolph
From:
epf-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:epf-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Deen Sethanandha
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007
11:41 AM
To: Eclipse
Process Framework Project Developers List
Subject: Re: [epf-dev] Lifecycle
diagram revision
Hi All,
I am a Ph.D
student at Portland
State University.
I have been monitoring EPF project for a while. I am actually not a
committer but I am studying the developer material at this moment. My
research area is Software Process and Metrics. I have read a lot about RUP and
Agile methodology. Attached are some ideas that I have regarding the life
cycle model. I borrow the idea from the RUP iterative diagram. I
think it helped me when I present to other students.
The OpenUP1 is a bit cleaner. It has inner circle as iterative
diagram and the outer circle as the OpenUP Phases. The size of each phase
are different. I try to convey the growth of work products.
The OpenUP2
provide the view of work product growth. I like Ana's idea about
that. However, people could interpret the larger of boxes as effort or
duration for each phase, which is not quite correct. That's why I have
arrow called "Work Product".
The
diagrams and color are not set in stone. I just like to convey my
idea. I hope that the digrams are not too far off from what you have in
mind.
There is an interesting analogy that I had when I think about the
OpenUP2. We can view the iteration circle as a wheel that tries to climb
the slope to the finish line. For each phase, we could put the milestones
that need to be accomplished.
Best Regards,
Deen
On 1/23/07, Chris
Armstrong <chris.armstrong@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
I like the last one as it
shows the product getting "bigger" and more
complete through the four phases.
Regarding the lifecycle diagram, attached is a slide that appears in APG's
RUP training that might foot the bill. The things I like about it is it
shows "loopy" iterations occuring continually throughout the phases,
makes
some distinction between the end of a phase and the end of a "normal"
iteration, and provides descriptive labels related to the problem and
solution for each phase.
Regarding the presumed inclusion of Daily Meetings (which certainly isn't a
bad idea), I'm sure everyone noticed the numerous Bugzilla entries for
incorporating XP content. I was wondering (like Brian and perhaps others),
if we had made a decision to include the XP content into the "core"
OpenUP/Basic 1.0 content. I guess I thought (perhaps naively, for no good
reason) that it was going to be an extension to OpenUP as a plug in someway
(OpenUP/XP?)...
I think discussing the entry/exit state thing would be pertinent...
Chris ~:|
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] On
Behalf Of Brian Lyons
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 6:25 AM
To: Eclipse Process Framework Project Developers List
Subject: RE: [epf-dev] Lifecycle diagram revision
hiho,
I think the first one is a great picture and we should find a place for it.
On the other hand the "lifecycle diagram" (that started this
thread) is the picture above the WBS that is labeled Workflow on the
Lifecycle page. I think this diverges too much from the focus of
"what is
the lifecycle?" and instead covers "what's it all
about?" Especially the
ones without the phases.
I like the picture though. A lot. Perhaps this is a
missing graphic at the
top of the Core Principles page.
Did we add Daily Meetings as a definitive, default characteristic of
applying OpenUP/Basic?
Back to the lifecycle diagram, I think it can have iterations added somehow.
Perhaps just in a more aesthetically pleasing version of what Steve scrawled
or perhaps someone has a more innovative representation.
Though the Lifecycle page does not call it out, WBS elements are understood
to have Work Product Usage in addition to the task-centric
perspective. I'd
love for us to get the focus on the ever growing product in there (as
suggested by Scott). Of course we don't have a Work Product called
Product,
just the Build. Maybe something like Ana's ever-growing blocks could
fit
into the Lifecycle Diagram.
BTW, do we need a side discussion on the Entry
State and Exit State
and
Deliverable columns on the Work Product Usage? That sounds like
something
that could add a little more clarity to the process.
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On Behalf Of Ana Valente Pereira
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 5:38 AM
To: Steve Adolph
Cc: Eclipse Process Framework Project Developers List
Subject: Re: [epf-dev] Lifecycle diagram revision
just some ideas ... modified from a picture I saw for something else...
.. I tried to show core principles, some practices inside the iteration and
the phases ... maybe its too much
Ana
Ana Valente Pereira wrote:
> it is also to linear and lacks the learning... feedback from one
> iteration being used to improve the solution (and the process) for the
> next iteration
> ... I can try to make some drawings and sketches to discuss at the
> next F2F ? ... and then someone would take care of the graphics?
>
> Ana
>
> Steve Adolph wrote:
>
>> Hello Everyone
>>
>> The OpenUP lifecycle diagram bothers me because it does not include
>> any dramatic visual clue to OpenUP being an iterative process. I've
>> just sketched a revise diagram and wonder two things:
>>
>> 1) Am I the only one who is concerned the lifecycle diagram does not
>> dramatically include iterations?
>>
>> 2) Is there someone out there who actually has creative and drawing
>> talent and is interested in re-drawing this? J
>>
>> Best regards
>>
>> Steve
>>
>>
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