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RE: [epf-dev] Discovered Size of OpenUP/Basic
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I completely agree with Mark's perspective. We shouldn't be 
as concerned about size, but more about essential content. To Scott's point, it 
might not be a bad idea to consider refactoring content into multiple plugins, 
so for those organizations and teams that are concerned about size can control 
it (but we should probably get some feedback from the user community before we 
dive into it). One thing about Jim's page count to consider is that method 
content is re-published in the various descriptors used in the capability 
patterns and delivery process. This might artificially inflate the "actual" size 
of original content...
 
Thanks, Chris ~:|
I think we should worry less about the number of pages and more about the 
value of the content on each page.
 
The number of pages will be artificially bloated by the page layout 
delivered by Composer. For example the Architecture work product covers two 
pages of printed paper but only delivers about half a page of text in a 12pt 
font.
 
On a more general point, I am uncomfortable about the way recent 
discussions have focused on the size of the process, as if somehow smaller means 
more agile. I do not believe that agility is a function of the size of the 
process. It is a function of how people behave, not what the process does or 
does not explicitly document.
 
I believe that it is important that OpenUP/Basic delivers value to it's 
users. I do not think that the primary audience for OpenUP/Basic is 
going to be projects made up of small teams of battle-hardened agile 
development veterans. Projects like that don't really need to refer to *any* 
written process. 
 
So who's our audience? Small teams of less experienced developers adopting 
new technologies and techniques? People who want to use the Unified Process but 
want a free alternative to RUP? I think so. If that is the case then 
OpenUP/Basic had better be delivering some real content - by which I means 
actual practices and guidance to help them reach a point where they don't need 
it anymore.
 
That stuff consumes pages. And (if done right) delivers value.
 
When deciding what to chop out of OpenUP/Basic, we need to make sure that 
we ask the question "does this content deliver value to our audience?" If the 
answer is yes and we are still at 542 pages, then I am ok with that.
 
Cheers
 
Mark
 
 
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From: "Scott W. Ambler" 
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Sent by: epf-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
Date: 
  12/01/2006 03:49AM
Subject: Re: [epf-dev] Discovered Size of 
  OpenUP/Basic
Seems to me that we need to 
  cut it down dramatically.
What material can we move out into separate 
  plug-ins?
- Scott
On Thu, November 30, 2006 7:56 pm, Jim Ruehlin 
  said:
> The best estimate I have so far of the size of OpenUP/Basic is 
  542 pages
> (8 ½ x 11). This is based on what?s in CVS as of 11/29/06. 
  This should
> give us an initial benchmark for our OpenUP/Basic 1.0 
  scoping efforts.
>
>
>
> I determined the size by 
  creating a PDF of the entire website, doing a
> breadth-first walk along 
  the links starting with the Intro page. I didn?
> t see anything 
  missing, but I only made a cursory examination of the PDF
> file. 
  Glossary terms, templates, and examples are included in the page
> 
  count. Also, many web pages are longer than 8 ½ x 11, so this estimate
> 
  is based on a book layout, not a website 
  layout.
>
>
>
> - Jim
>
>
>
> 
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